Sarcasm right?
Sarcasm right?
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not at all. It's BS to compare Vanek to Satan.
If you mean top "notch" club who is goes on serious losing streaks through out the year and fighting for thier playoff lives with a very realistic chance of NOT making the playoffs, then Yes, they are a top notch club. IF a top notch club was leading the league in scoring, they should be fighting for home ice advantage not for their playoff lives. "Top Notch Club", now that is funny.Originally Posted by Typ0
Satan vs. Vanek. Both European, both make boat load of money, both show up occasionally in a game, both are very streaky, both seem very moody. Vanek isn't Satan yet but with 7 year contract in his hip pocket, he is well on his way. He'll be a New York Islander in less than 3 years, ok, maybe 4.
And it seems the worse teams bring out the best in Vanek. For what he is making he needs to be a hell of a lot more consistent. The cream is definately not rising in this case.
As far as comparing Vanek to Satan, you have different linemates and too many intangibles to really compare the two. All I can say if Thomas' last name was Jesus, this thread would become way too funny.
I think Vanek is both a better player and goal scorer than Satan, but he does have that streakiness in common.
Should have known, way back in 1960 when we drafted Richie Lucas Number 1, that this would be a long, hard ride. But who could have known it would be THIS bad?
I have been behind Vanek the whole time.Originally Posted by LOSman WINS
I mean top notch club from top to bottom. I believe they are built right and just going through some change right now. I'm not worried. They've gotten up towards the top before and they will ascend there again.Originally Posted by SabreEleven
Satan is a veteran player with a very bad me attitude. Don't think it's fair at all to put that on Vanek. Give the kid a year or two to mature and see if he grows into his role on this team before you throw him away as the garbage Satan is.
Originally Posted by Typ0
I think that they were "built right" a year ago, but when you get beat not only in the game but physically punished like Ottawa did to us in the EC Finals, you have to get bigger. We sat idle and did not get bigger and now look at us.
and we trounced Ottawa the year before too. Too much wining about how good we were last year and how bad we are this year. That's my point. The organization is built well for the long-haul and will rise up again. The real question should be whether or not the players are willing to come and play here if you ask me not how committed this team is to winning.Originally Posted by Buffatexas
I think that this edition of the team would do as well, IF it was last year. Unfortunately, the speed game, which we excel at, is changing. Teams are getting bigger. They are crashing the net more and are not hesitant to get in the way of shooters. I do not see the Sabs doing that. We lack size and strength. I would say that if we make some key moves in the offseason to bulk up, then we will be in a lot better shapeOriginally Posted by Typ0
Vanek is Austrian not EuropeanOriginally Posted by SabreEleven
Originally Posted by LOSman WINS
Tell me, just where do you think Austria is located?
Ok, Kelly PicklerOriginally Posted by LOSman WINS
Originally Posted by LOSman WINS
That post should put this thread in the HOF
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I think you meant this :)Originally Posted by Philagape
I agree. It is plain ******ed. Satan was a pussy who would cost around the outside never giving up anything to fight to the front of the net. Vanek lives in that area and is constantly battling. I will agree that he needs to be less streaky but I don't buy the fact that he is a defensive liability. He was a +40 last year for christ sakes. I think that Giant contract he signed made him press WAAY to hard early and it showed. He will be fine.Originally Posted by Typ0
I saw someone compare him to Ovechkin. WHY? Whats the point. Ovechkin is the best player in the league.
Dumbest post in zone history.Originally Posted by LOSman WINS
You're insane.Originally Posted by Typ0
A lot of the "young" guys were part of the last two playoff runs, yet you still think they need more experience? You still think they're going to get better? That's illogical.
We have a lot of guys who are due to be FA's after '09, and I'm partially hoping for an off-season fire sale. Keep Hecht, Roy, Pominville, Tallinder, Paille and Kaleta (the last two on potential), maybe Vanek and maybe Miller. Entertain trade offers for everyone else but only bite if the right offer comes along.