We were better off....

[IAG]

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The peak of Williams' career was in 2003 and 004 under Jerry Gray. The defense was legit.
DE- Kelsay and Schobel
DT- Adams and Williams
LB- Posey, Fletcher, Spikes
CB- Clements and McGee
S- Milloy and Vincent

What would give for that type of defense today?

[Dozerdog]

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The peak of Williams' career was in 2003 and 004 under Jerry Gray. The defense was legit.
DE- Kelsay and Schobel
DT- Adams and Williams
LB- Posey, Fletcher, Spikes
CB- Clements and McGee
S- Milloy and Vincent

What would give for that type of defense today?

If anything- give the credit to Gregg Williams. He has duplicated his defensive success a few times since.


If TD was any good, why is he not in the NFL now?

[IAG]

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If TD was any good, why is he not in the NFL now?

You ever think he might want to be with his family? He has done consulting working according to the net.

BTW, should we start listing the players he brought in Pittsburgh.

[Lone Stranger]

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Mr. IAG you are in the distinct minority here. I had high hopes for him when he came on board but became very disillusioned with his chicanery.

BTW where has he worked in the NFL since he was let go. I know Chris Mortenson likes him and all the ******s on ESPN but who else.

[Jan Reimers]

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If TD was any good, why is he not in the NFL now?

You ever think he might want to be with his family? He has done consulting working according to the net.

BTW, should we start listing the players he brought in Pittsburgh.

Who cares what he did in Pittsburgh? Cowher was most probably the power there, anyway, since he forced Donahoe out.

[Typ0]

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I can't believe there is even a thread like this. Donahoe was our downfall. Wilson actually put resources on the table then and made and effort to win. Not only did TD make bad decisions the way he did business was absolutely horrible and ruined the culture in the locker room and threatened the teams relationship with Bills nation. Since then RW has gone ultra conservative and the team ultra sucks.

[IAG]

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Wilson is your downfall....see Jauron, Marv the GM, Nix and Chan Gailey.

BTW, who are the good players that the post-Jauron admin brought in?

Jackson, Jarius Bryd, Poz...maybe?

Face it, he was better than the garbage that organization has produced since 2006.

[Typ0]

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Wilson is your downfall....see Jauron, Marv the GM, Nix and Chan Gailey.

BTW, who are the good players that the post-Jauron admin brought in?

Jackson, Jarius Bryd, Poz...maybe?

Face it, he was better than the garbage that organization has produced since 2006.

That's true...a job by a bad GM certainly is better than the non-GM job Levy did.

[IAG]

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I had hope with Donahoe....I honestly do not even want to get interested in the team anymore.

The rest of the AFC has a plan and commitment to winning. I cannot say that about the Bills.

The Lions, Raiders and Bills...the bottom feeders in the league.

BTW, Nix should not crap on the Raiders. Who is he to dump on them?

[Jan Reimers]

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Wilson is your downfall....see Jauron, Marv the GM, Nix and Chan Gailey.

BTW, who are the good players that the post-Jauron admin brought in?

Jackson, Jarius Bryd, Poz...maybe?

Face it, he was better than the garbage that organization has produced since 2006.

Nix and Gailey are really too new to evaluate, except that Nix most likely contributed to last year's draft. That draft has the potential to be very good, although Maybin is still a question mark.

And the "post-Jauron admin" just started. I don't believe it has brought in any players yet.

[IAG]

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Nix and Gailey are really too new to evaluate, except that Nix most likely contributed to last year's draft. That draft has the potential to be very good, although Maybin is still a question mark.

And the "post-Jauron admin" just started. I don't believe it has brought in any players yet.

You are correct...I did not mean that way....how many good players did the post-Donahoe guys bring in...good correction- thanks.

[Buddo]

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For all that Donahoe did bring in some decent FAs, he destroyed the franchise with his piss-poor drafting.
Even in the last few years with Levy/Jauron, at least we have had the majority of picks at the top of the draft being decent players. Maybe not as good as we would have hoped, but still good enough to start. (An exception being McCargo).
You can probably count the number of good picks Donahoe had, on the fingers of one hand - and that is through all his drafts.
You cannot become/remain competitive, if you draft badly.
Part of his remit also, was to actually hire a good HC, something else he singularly failed at.

[Neubs24]

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he also was responsible for releasing Pat Williams and Antoine Winfield.

Losman cost us a 1st rd pick, and McGahee and Miek Williams were a complete waste of a 1st rd pick.

the guy was making big mistakes that helped reduce this team to what it became the last few years

The only 1st round pick that Losman cost us was the one used to get him.

[Neubs24]

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Wilson is your downfall....see Jauron, Marv the GM, Nix and Chan Gailey.

BTW, who are the good players that the post-Jauron admin brought in?

Jackson, Jarius Bryd, Poz...maybe?

Face it, he was better than the garbage that organization has produced since 2006.

Wilson was an absentee owner after TD came in...

[Luisito23]

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I never thought I lived to see the day when someone made a thread defending, and glorifying Tom Donahoe!!!!