Is Pierre Turgeon a lock for the Hall Of Fame?

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  • TheGhostofJimKelly
    Registered User
    • May 2003
    • 12459
    #1

    Is Pierre Turgeon a lock for the Hall Of Fame?

    I got into a discussion with someone whether Pierre Turgeon is a lock for the Hall Of Fame. He is eligible this year. I never thought of him as a HOFer in the first place. Here are the pros and cons:

    Pro
    He is 35th on the all-time scoring (1327 total points)
    He is in the 500 goal club

    Cons
    Scored 40+ goals twice (58 and 40)
    Was in the top 10 in scoring twice in his 19 year career
    Career Awards - 1 - The Lady Byng in 1997
    Made the all-star game 4 times in 19 years
    Zero Stanley Cups


    I just don't see him as a Hall Of Fame player, I guess the numbers will get him in. The Hockey HOF has let in some questionable players, but when I think HOF I think the best of the best.


    Thoughts?
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  • BlackMetalNinja
    I'm not Jewish, I'm just in it for the hats.
    • May 2005
    • 31525
    #2
    Re: Is Pierre Turgeon a lock for the Hall Of Fame?

    Originally posted by TheGhostofJimKelly
    I got into a discussion with someone whether Pierre Turgeon is a lock for the Hall Of Fame. He is eligible this year. I never thought of him as a HOFer in the first place. Here are the pros and cons:

    Pro
    He is 35th on the all-time scoring (1327 total points)
    He is in the 500 goal club

    Cons
    Scored 40+ goals twice (58 and 40)
    Was in the top 10 in scoring twice in his 19 year career
    Career Awards - 1 - The Lady Byng in 1997
    Made the all-star game 4 times in 19 years
    Zero Stanley Cups


    I just don't see him as a Hall Of Fame player, I guess the numbers will get him in. The Hockey HOF has let in some questionable players, but when I think HOF I think the best of the best.


    Thoughts?
    The pros you listed are more of a cumulative effort from a rather lengthy career. He had a few stellar seasons, but was not consistently amongst the top players in the league. I don't view him as a HOF player either.
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    • Ebenezer
      Give me a minute...
      • Jul 2002
      • 73867
      #3
      Re: Is Pierre Turgeon a lock for the Hall Of Fame?

      The numbers are there to get him in over time...but that is the key. He only gets in during a weak candidate year.




      For all the education and practice each of us undergoes, the achievment of mastery is ultimately the outcome of a personal quest for understanding.
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      • Philagape
        WIN NOW
        • Jul 2002
        • 19432
        #4
        Re: Is Pierre Turgeon a lock for the Hall Of Fame?

        This is why mere stats shouldn't be a determining factor. Merely being good for a long time will result in similar numbers to those who were truly great. The HOF should be only for the truly great.
        It's just like Drew Bledsoe. Some say he should be in the HOF only because of his career numbers. But his numbers come from quantity, not quality. He was never truly great.
        "It is better to be divided by truth than to be united by error." -- Martin Luther

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        • Nighthawk
          Getting old waiting for a championship in Buffalo!
          • Jul 2002
          • 15437
          #5
          Re: Is Pierre Turgeon a lock for the Hall Of Fame?

          I don't view Turgeon as a HOF player, he just wasn't the player that could make a difference in every game he played in. He's another typical, soft Buffalo Sabres draft pick.
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          • Ebenezer
            Give me a minute...
            • Jul 2002
            • 73867
            #6
            Re: Is Pierre Turgeon a lock for the Hall Of Fame?

            Originally posted by Nighthawk
            I don't view Turgeon as a HOF player, he just wasn't the player that could make a difference in every game he played in. He's another typical, soft Buffalo Sabres draft pick.
            he just wasn't a soft Sabres pick...he was the consensus overall #1...he was going there regardless who had the top pick.




            For all the education and practice each of us undergoes, the achievment of mastery is ultimately the outcome of a personal quest for understanding.

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            • BillsSabresB.C.T. Fan
              All-Pro Zoner
              • Jan 2004
              • 4556
              #7
              Re: Is Pierre Turgeon a lock for the Hall Of Fame?

              Two words,

              LALALALALALALA Lafontaine!!!!!!!

              best trade that the Sabres ever made

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              • rbochan
                Zamboni Driver
                • Jun 2008
                • 5060
                #8
                Re: Is Pierre Turgeon a lock for the Hall Of Fame?

                Originally posted by BillsSabresB.C.T. Fan
                Two words,

                LALALALALALALA Lafontaine!!!!!!!

                best trade that the Sabres ever made
                And then Darcy traded him for Andrew Peters.
                ...Rob

                The American Dream isn't an SUV and a house in the suburbs;
                it's Don't Tread On Me.

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                • Ground Chuck
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 725
                  #9
                  Re: Is Pierre Turgeon a lock for the Hall Of Fame?

                  No

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                  • clumping platelets
                    #10
                    Re: Is Pierre Turgeon a lock for the Hall Of Fame?

                    Should not even be considered

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