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  • The King
    Without me it's just Awe so
    • Jun 2004
    • 42380

    NHL FA Thread

    Today is probably the best offseason day in all of sports. I love July 1... it's always insanely active. Fire up the FA tracker and enjoy the show!

    Free Agency opens up at noon.

    I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
    "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
    You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
    It was all
    true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
    He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
    mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


  • RockStar36
    Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
    • Sep 2004
    • 24761

    #2
    Re: NHL FA Thread

    [insert sarcastic 'the Sabres never do anything' comment here]

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    • The King
      Without me it's just Awe so
      • Jun 2004
      • 42380

      #3
      Re: NHL FA Thread

      Im not expecting the B's to either, but there always a ton of surprises.
      I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
      "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
      You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
      It was all
      true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
      He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
      mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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      • OpIv37
        Acid Douching Asswipe
        • Sep 2002
        • 101230

        #4
        Re: NHL FA Thread

        Sabres' FA's (according to the TSN link from MBB above):

        Lalime, Patrick
        Tallinder, Henrik
        Lydman, Toni
        Ellis, Matt
        Mair, Adam
        Torres, Raffi

        Any prediction on who stays and who goes? The easy one: Torres is gone. I don't think they can afford to lose the vet presence of both Tallinder and Lydman in one off-season. I hope they keep Tallinder due to the way he and Myers worked together last year (and because Lydman is prone to mental mistakes), but it probably depends on whether or not another team decides to overpay him.

        I'm not sure about Mair or Ellis. They're both hard-working grinders, but neither is particularly skilled and Mair, while relatively popular amongst fans, is north of 30. Again, they'll probably keep one and my preference would be Mair.

        Unfortunately, I suspect Lalime will be back.
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        • Dr. Lecter
          Zero for Zero!
          • Mar 2003
          • 67934

          #5
          Re: NHL FA Thread

          You might be right, but I would keep Ellis and Lydman. Tallinder played great at times last year, but trailed off late. Lydman is more phsyical and can play on the PK and PP. I also suspect that because of Tallinder's play last year and the fact that he looked like a stand out next to Myers he is more likely to get a 4 year deal worth 4.5-5 million per.

          As for Mair/Ellis, I slightly prefer Ellis because Mair is slower, older and had hip surgery last year. He too can provide some help on the PK if needed. But Mair is more physical and can actually fight 3 or 4 times a year. So it is close.
          Originally posted by mysticsoto
          Lecter is right in everything he said.

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          • RockStar36
            Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
            • Sep 2004
            • 24761

            #6
            Re: NHL FA Thread

            I really don't care if any of them come back. Ellis and Mair give maximum effort all the time, so I appreciate them and wouldn't hate if they came back, but that isn't making or breaking my offseason.

            I don't want Hank or Lydman back. Both will come with a pay raise, and both are already overpaid. Hank had a good year thanks to Myers, but was horribly mediocre the prior season.

            I want them to sign a PP QB on D. That is priority #1 in my book.

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            • OpIv37
              Acid Douching Asswipe
              • Sep 2002
              • 101230

              #7
              Re: NHL FA Thread

              With Myers and Tallinder, it's a "chicken or the egg" problem. Did Myers develop so quickly because he had help from Tallinder, or was Myers so good that he made Tallinder look better?

              I don't know the answer to that- I'm just throwing it out there for discussion, because I think the answer will have a lot to do with how this organization proceeds with Tallinder.
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              • RockStar36
                Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
                • Sep 2004
                • 24761

                #8
                Re: NHL FA Thread

                I'm in the camp that thinks Tallinder benefited from Myers, not the other way around.

                This reminds me of Spacek last year. Some team is going to give Tallinder more money and I'd be pissed if the Sabres shelled out even more for him. He's a solid d-man for the most part, but what else does he do?

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                • Dr. Lecter
                  Zero for Zero!
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 67934

                  #9
                  Re: NHL FA Thread

                  Originally posted by RockStar36
                  I really don't care if any of them come back. Ellis and Mair give maximum effort all the time, so I appreciate them and wouldn't hate if they came back, but that isn't making or breaking my offseason.

                  I don't want Hank or Lydman back. Both will come with a pay raise, and both are already overpaid. Hank had a good year thanks to Myers, but was horribly mediocre the prior season.

                  I want them to sign a PP QB on D. That is priority #1 in my book.

                  To make it clear on the D-men - they come back at the same or similar cost as last year. No significant raise. That is unlikely as Tallinder will likely get a boost and Lydman might as well.
                  Originally posted by mysticsoto
                  Lecter is right in everything he said.

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                  • Dr. Lecter
                    Zero for Zero!
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 67934

                    #10
                    Re: NHL FA Thread

                    Originally posted by OpIv37
                    With Myers and Tallinder, it's a "chicken or the egg" problem. Did Myers develop so quickly because he had help from Tallinder, or was Myers so good that he made Tallinder look better?

                    I don't know the answer to that- I'm just throwing it out there for discussion, because I think the answer will have a lot to do with how this organization proceeds with Tallinder.

                    I think it was a matter that their styles were a great match. Tallinder never leaves his own end, while Myers likes to skate around. Knowing that Tallinder would always be back allowed Myers to be more aggresive offensively and defensively. If the Sabres can match Myers up with another "stay at home" buy, I think it will work. (Rivet? Weber?)
                    Originally posted by mysticsoto
                    Lecter is right in everything he said.

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                    • JD
                      Sabres Zone
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 13752

                      #11
                      Re: NHL FA Thread

                      If we don't trade for a power play quarterback I'm not buying any tickets this year
                      “You hold a players only meeting and get each guy to stand up and say what he can bring to the table... and if he doesn't, you punch him in the face.” ~~ Harry Neale, on how to fix the Sabres season.

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                      • RockStar36
                        Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 24761

                        #12
                        Re: NHL FA Thread

                        Originally posted by Dr. Lecter
                        To make it clear on the D-men - they come back at the same or similar cost as last year. No significant raise. That is unlikely as Tallinder will likely get a boost and Lydman might as well.
                        Which is kind of my point, they will both get getting raises.

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                        • RockStar36
                          Dude's Little Ignorant Crony
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 24761

                          #13
                          Re: NHL FA Thread

                          For what it's worth - Darcy was on WGR maybe a week or two ago and indicated strongly that the power play was a major concern and would be addressed.

                          I would actually have little issue with them overpaying a little bit for someone like Gonchar, although his age is a concern.

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                          • SabreEleven
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 39563

                            #14
                            Re: NHL FA Thread

                            Originally posted by Dr. Lecter
                            To make it clear on the D-men - they come back at the same or similar cost as last year. No significant raise. That is unlikely as Tallinder will likely get a boost and Lydman might as well.
                            I'll bet they'll both get a pay raise and it will probably be with other teams. The salary cap went up so they'll be more money for OTHER teams to throw around.

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                            • hydro
                              Registered User
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 20160

                              #15
                              Re: NHL FA Thread

                              Sorry Bedard:
                              Dreger:
                              - Both Florida and Boston say they don't expect to be very active today. But the Panthers need another forward and defenceman.
                              BERNIAC!

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