Few Bills camp observations

[patmoran2006]

Just a few non-earth shattering tidbits

Noticed lately that Marshawn Lynch has been getting more carries and reps than Fred Jackson.. I cant believe Im saying this, but it may turn out to be Jackson who ends up as the #3 back. Definitely have to see how that plays out.

Cordaro Howard and Andre Ramsey have been getting almost ALL of the backup OG reps, not Kirk Chambers.. he's been in at RT lately in place of injured Cornell Green. If Wang gets healthy and doesnt go to PS, this tells me that Chambers' roster spot is in big trouble.

The Bills havent discussed marcus easley's injury-- I dont like that.

Ellis Lankster is having an EXCELLENT camp-- that could end up pushing Ashton Youboty out, especially if the BIlls keep only 5 corners.

Alex Carrington and Terrel Troup look great. They will have roles as rookies.

Lastly, Sorry but a 12th overall pick shouldnt be a "situational" player. It sure as hell looks that's what Maybin will be.. Torbor gets almost all the first team reps, while it looks like Maybin will be a pass-rush specialist.

[wmoz11]

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He's only just now 22 years old. What is the role of your typical football player that age? You can't just look at draft position. We know what he was when we drafted him; a project. Just because he's a situational pass-rusher in his second year doesn't mean that's what he's destined to be.

Have some patience - we should all be used to that.

[CAbills]

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With Orakapo playing so well, and us switching to a 3-4 sucks being stuck with Maybin

[Commissioner]

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Hopefully as a pass rush specialist.... he will actually get pressure or sack the QB.

[raphael120]

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Pat,

I'm hearing that Antonio Coleman is looking pretty good out there too through guys like Matt Warren. What's Colemans story? I'm reading about how he was supposed to be one of the top OLB prospects in the 2010 draft but went undrafted?

[OpIv37]

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He's only just now 22 years old. What is the role of your typical football player that age? You can't just look at draft position. We know what he was when we drafted him; a project. Just because he's a situational pass-rusher in his second year doesn't mean that's what he's destined to be.

Have some patience - we should all be used to that.

so, let me ask you this... why the hell would a 7-9 team with numerous glaring holes draft a "project," especially with someone like Orakpo, who plays the same position, still on the board?

If Maybin doesn't become a starter and contribute this season, then it was a terrible draft pick. Even if he develops in another year or two- the best case scenario is that we lost 2-3 years of Orakpo's productivity while waiting for Maybin to develop. ****ing stupid.

[WeAreArthurMoates]

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Interesting about Marshawn, I've felt though that he's exactly what Gailey want's in a back to be that pound the rock guy. He may view Freddy as a similar player to CJ without the speed.

[wmoz11]

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so, let me ask you this... why the hell would a 7-9 team with numerous glaring holes draft a "project," especially with someone like Orakpo, who plays the same position, still on the board?

If Maybin doesn't become a starter and contribute this season, then it was a terrible draft pick. Even if he develops in another year or two- the best case scenario is that we lost 2-3 years of Orakpo's productivity while waiting for Maybin to develop. ****ing stupid.

Well, the first part has absolutely nothing to do with what I said and certainly doesn't reflect on the current staff.

Your second part doesn't make much sense, either. You're saying that, regardless of pro readiness, a player has to be a starter and contribute within 2 years (hell, it's only been one full year right now) or he's a bust?

There's many players out there that have proven otherwise.

[Beebe's Kid]

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With Orakapo playing so well, and us switching to a 3-4 sucks being stuck with Maybin

**** **** ****!!

Quit the ****ing Orakpo ****! He isn't a ****ing Bill! We need to move on!!

GOOD NEWS!! Maybin is 22, and Orakpo is 24. So when Orakpo is washing up, Maybin will still be in his prime. That should be around the time that Nix's vision begins to really take shape and the Bills rattle off 5 straight SB wins!!

[mikemac2001]

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Interesting about Marshawn, I've felt though that he's exactly what Gailey want's in a back to be that pound the rock guy. He may view Freddy as a similar player to CJ without the speed.

when i went to camp day 1 i was so impressed with marshawn he looked faster and leaner but still a beast and was the best back out there. i would love for all the backs to get there yards and carries i like all of them but rooting for marshawn

[Beebe's Kid]

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so, let me ask you this... why the hell would a 7-9 team with numerous glaring holes draft a "project," especially with someone like Orakpo, who plays the same position, still on the board?

If Maybin doesn't become a starter and contribute this season, then it was a terrible draft pick. Even if he develops in another year or two- the best case scenario is that we lost 2-3 years of Orakpo's productivity while waiting for Maybin to develop. ****ing stupid.

Orakpo doesn't give us any victories that we missed last year, can you break your normal tendencies and agree?

So...it two years when Maybin is 24 we'll have two more years that we wouldn't have with Orakpo, left with Maybin.

Maybin didn't pick the Bills. Dickie J and His Band of Gypsies picked Maybin. He has skills, he just needs to develop. Smart pick? **** no...

We can cry about it, which seems to be the preferred method, or try to make the best out of it that we can...I'll take the later.

[Mr. Pink]

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Maybin = completely wasted pick and bust.

[justasportsfan]

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Orakpo doesn't give us any victories that we missed last year, can you break your normal tendencies and agree?

So...it two years when Maybin is 24 we'll have two more years that we wouldn't have with Orakpo, left with Maybin.

Maybin didn't pick the Bills. Dickie J and His Band of Gypsies picked Maybin. He has skills, he just needs to develop. Smart pick? **** no...

We can cry about it, which seems to be the preferred method, or try to make the best out of it that we can...I'll take the later.

it's easier to cry.

[Hogwasher]

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Lynch looks leaner this year. I thought he was heavier than he should have been. His physical talent has never been an issue. I hope Gailey finds a way to make the offense easy for Lynch, because he struggles to find holes at times.

[Philagape]

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I'm not that surprised about Lynch/Jackson.

Lynch is the more physically talented player, but he played himself out of the starting job with his poor vision and attitude, not to mention his off-the-field troubles. Jackson basically started by default.
Jackson did what I would expect of any NFL regular; he found the holes that were given to him. But he never would have started if Lynch could do that.
If Lynch has indeed taken that step and has improved his backfield smarts and decisiveness, then it's only a matter of time before he unseats Jackson.
Jackson is a fine backup, and that's his ideal role.