Bills D playing it close to the vest?

[Mahdi]

I have been re-watching the Bills preseason games and what I am noticing is that the Bills are not giving anything away about how they plan to pressure QBs. Almost every single pass rush situation they are coming out with 4 down linemen in a basic 4-3 look with our LBs being used as DEs. No one is ever standing up coming off the edge.

It seems to me they are hiding what exactly they plan to do with Ellis and Maybin. There is no way that their pass rush consists of 4 DL, all in 3 and 4 point stances. I think in the 2 games they have played they have sent more than 4 only once or twice.

That is encouraging because our pass rush hasn't looked that sharp and I'm hoping this is why.

Also gives me more hope that we haven't seen the best of Maybin.

[justasportsfan]

Re: Bills D playing it close to the vest?

we shall see soon enough vs. the fins.

[psubills62]

Re: Bills D playing it close to the vest?

I agree Mahdi. There have been very, very few blitzes. I have a hard time believing our pass defense will be as simple as rush 4 down linemen and let everyone else cover.

I believe Whitner recently said that they had installed 60-70 different blitz and coverage packages in TC to attack the QB. I don't think we've seen anything close to what the Bills plan to do on defense.

[EDS]

Re: Bills D playing it close to the vest?

I am convinced that Gailey and his staff are keeping Maybin under wraps this preseason and that they expect him to generate significant pressure during the season . . .

[trapezeus]

Re: Bills D playing it close to the vest?

if jauron was coach, i wouldn't bank on it.

but it makes sense, the defense isn't athletically superior, so the element of surprise should help here and there.

[psubills62]

Re: Bills D playing it close to the vest?

I am convinced that Gailey and his staff are keeping Maybin under wraps this preseason and that they expect him to generate significant pressure during the season . . .

I sure hope you're right, though I wouldn't count on it.

I think Ellis will have something of a breakout season, and Kelsay will probably play better than people expect.

[better days]

Re: Bills D playing it close to the vest?

if jauron was coach, i wouldn't bank on it.

but it makes sense, the defense isn't athletically superior, so the element of surprise should help here and there.

I'm sure Dick will do a bang up job coaching the DB's in Philly this year. Thank God he is gone.

[madness]

Re: Bills D playing it close to the vest?

Absolutely. They've used 4-3 nickel almost exclusively with a little 3-4 base mixed in here and there and rarely did anything outside of the basic four-man rush.

[EDS]

Re: Bills D playing it close to the vest?

I sure hope you're right, though I wouldn't count on it.

I think Ellis will have something of a breakout season, and Kelsay will probably play better than people expect.

You are underestimating Gailey's genius.

Chan and company have slowly been setting up this scenario. Expectations will be that Ellis will be the primary rusher, so opposing teams will focus their blocking on him. This will free Maybin to utilize his speed. Expect considerable pressure and numerous sacks early in the season before teams figure out how to stop Maybin. Once that happens then the blitz packages will be rolled out.




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[psubills62]

Re: Bills D playing it close to the vest?

You are underestimating Gailey's genius.

Chan and company have slowly been setting up this scenario. Expectations will be that Ellis will be the primary rusher, so opposing teams will focus their blocking on him. This will free Maybin to utilize his speed. Expect considerable pressure and numerous sacks early in the season before teams figure out how to stop Maybin. Once that happens then the blitz packages will be rolled out.




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Ah, sorry, I didn't sense the sarcasm before

[Night Train]

Re: Bills D playing it close to the vest?

Whether or not it works come the regular season, the pressure will come from stunts involving the LB's and the Secondary.

They're just not going to try any of it during the pre-season and we'll know nothing until the opener against Miami.

[stuckincincy]

Re: Bills D playing it close to the vest?

I have been re-watching the Bills preseason games and what I am noticing is that the Bills are not giving anything away about how they plan to pressure QBs. Almost every single pass rush situation they are coming out with 4 down linemen in a basic 4-3 look with our LBs being used as DEs. No one is ever standing up coming off the edge.

It seems to me they are hiding what exactly they plan to do with Ellis and Maybin. There is no way that their pass rush consists of 4 DL, all in 3 and 4 point stances. I think in the 2 games they have played they have sent more than 4 only once or twice.

That is encouraging because our pass rush hasn't looked that sharp and I'm hoping this is why.

Also gives me more hope that we haven't seen the best of Maybin.

Well, this has been said for several years - BUF keeping things close to the vest so as to not tip the competition off. It hasn't worked. The competition was neither scared nor fooled come regular season.

They should be working the preseason on the wrinkles they plan to use, practicing them on both sides of the ball and try to get their players acclimated.

There is nothing that any NFL team hasn't seen before - use the preseason to sharpen skills and execution.

[EDS]

Re: Bills D playing it close to the vest?

Ah, sorry, I didn't sense the sarcasm before

Just having fun with the situation. With a new coaching staff, new defensive scheme, no proven passrushers and no proven 3-4 NT all we can do is hope for the best.

[X-Era]

Re: Bills D playing it close to the vest?

Absolutely. They've used 4-3 nickel almost exclusively with a little 3-4 base mixed in here and there and rarely did anything outside of the basic four-man rush.

I thought they used the 4-3 nickel against Indy because they run a 3 wide set. I thought they ran a 3-4 against Wash.

[stuckincincy]

Re: Bills D playing it close to the vest?

Just having fun with the situation. With a new coaching staff, new defensive scheme, no proven passrushers and no proven 3-4 NT all we can do is hope for the best.

One thing I'd do is have one of those LBs drop a knuckle down on the LOS before the snap and let whoever is at NT do a dance. You want that interior OL to suffer some uncertainty, moments before the snap.