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  • ServoBillieves
    The Voice of Reason
    • Jul 2007
    • 6106

    So How Long Does It Take?

    So we need...

    QB
    #2 WR
    TE
    Blocking TE
    LT
    RT
    C
    NT (apparently)
    ILB
    OLB who can cover
    CB who can cover the flat
    S other than Whitner
    ST Coach

    What's the over under on years it takes for that to get fixed?
    Bye Bye Brady...
  • Mr. Pink
    Peterman Sucks!
    • Mar 2006
    • 35303

    #2
    Re: So How Long Does It Take?

    QB alone can take 1 to 50ish years?

    Look at the Lions, they haven't had a good QB since the 50s.

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    • wmoz11
      Registered User
      • Sep 2008
      • 2117

      #3
      Re: So How Long Does It Take?

      If everyone goes perfectly, we can make the playoffs next year. Or, like we've seen, it can take 10+ years and still nothing. It just depends if we have the right front office to make the correct changes and pick the correct players.

      I have my doubts.

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      • doomsdayvirus
        decade of fail
        • Oct 2005
        • 176

        #4
        Re: So How Long Does It Take?

        we may have resolved the TE situation 8 times in the past 5 years, but wouldn't know it, since our QB's never even try to throw to them.

        stupar hasn't looked bad, and nelson seems to have potential at WR.
        d00Mz

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        • Billz_fan
          Registered User
          • Jan 2003
          • 2614

          #5
          Re: So How Long Does It Take?

          The way they are going, Wanting to use only the draft it will take several years IMO. Why ? because if you only use the draft you cannot afford to make mistakes picking players and the Bills have done nothing but make mistakes picking players.

          Also, the lifespan of a Bills coach is 3 years if a winning record is not shown in one of the years. After 3 years and no winning Gailey win be run out of town or quit like all the others. Guess what happens then, we start over.
          Last edited by Billz_fan; 09-22-2010, 08:49 PM.
          The Polian Curse

          "They're a very special group of men. Cherish them, you will not see their like again."

          February 4, 1993 Bill Polian at his closing press conferance after being dismissed as GM of the Buffalo Bills by Ralph Wilson.

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          • ServoBillieves
            The Voice of Reason
            • Jul 2007
            • 6106

            #6
            Re: So How Long Does It Take?

            I honestly thought we had a good TE in Schouman, but injuries will have ruined that. Stupar looks OK, but Nelson needs to get back and show something before I make the assumption that he can be the all around TE we need.
            Bye Bye Brady...

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            • YardRat
              Well, lookie here...
              • Dec 2004
              • 86146

              #7
              Re: So How Long Does It Take?

              2 to make the playoffs, four to be a legit contender.
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              • Dying_-2-_Live
                Registered User
                • Feb 2009
                • 1188

                #8
                Re: So How Long Does It Take?

                The counters on 10 years and still running
                "If you ain't first... You're last"

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                • Buffalo Thriller
                  Registered User
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 1744

                  #9
                  Re: So How Long Does It Take?

                  RALPH MUST DIE!
                  Originally posted by OpIv37
                  You guys, the solution is so simple. Find the crazy kids who are shooting up the schools and have them shoot people getting off planes from West Africa.

                  No more school shootings, no more Ebola.

                  Obama would have thought of this already if he wasn't a pinko commie Nazi queer-loving wetback-loving Kenyan Indonesian Muslim.

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                  • Don't Panic
                    All-Pro Zoner
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 4227

                    #10
                    Re: So How Long Does It Take?

                    Originally posted by HargroveforMVP
                    So we need...

                    QB
                    #2 WR
                    TE
                    Blocking TE
                    LT
                    RT
                    C
                    NT (apparently)
                    ILB
                    OLB who can cover
                    CB who can cover the flat
                    S other than Whitner
                    ST Coach

                    What's the over under on years it takes for that to get fixed?
                    On offense, if you solve LT (and to a lesser extent RT) then you take a ton of pressure off QB (not that any of our current stable necessarily qualify), which can make the #2WR and TE more productive and the blocking TE less necessary. C doesn't worry me as we could slide Wood there if needed and just find another guard.

                    On defense, have a dominant NT would make the DEs and the whole pass rush better, taking coverage pressure off the OLB and allowing the CB to worry more about the flat. A dominant NT also keeps the rushing lanes clogged in the middle, making life easier for the ILB. The safeties don't worry me, especially if everyone is doing their job better due to said NT.

                    So... we need two tackles for starters - a LT and a NT. Let's start with that and then our problems won't seem so overwhelming.

                    Disclaimer: This is not in any way a recommendation that we pass on a QB next April if the right one is there in the 1st round.

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                    • X-Era
                      What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 27670

                      #11
                      Re: So How Long Does It Take?

                      Originally posted by HargroveforMVP
                      So we need...

                      QB
                      #2 WR
                      TE
                      Blocking TE
                      LT
                      RT
                      C
                      NT (apparently)
                      ILB
                      OLB who can cover
                      CB who can cover the flat
                      S other than Whitner
                      ST Coach

                      What's the over under on years it takes for that to get fixed?
                      I cant agree that we need that much.

                      QB
                      RT- If Meredith cant develop, it isnt Green.
                      #2 WR- could be Johnson or Easley
                      TE- Im happy with Nelson
                      Blocking TE- Agreed
                      LT- Bell is getting bad hype for little reason, he's been playing well and will continue to develop.
                      C- Could be Wood
                      NT- I think were fine between Williams and Troup
                      ILB- Agreed
                      OLB- Agreed
                      CB- Im fine with who we have
                      S- Maybe a heavy hitting SS to replace Whiter.

                      In my opinion we need:

                      QB
                      RT
                      Blocking TE
                      ILB
                      OLB

                      But after that I'm always for significantly upgrading talent on the roster. I wouldn't have a problem with big upgrades at any of the positions you listed as long as it wasn't at the expense of some of our big needs.

                      As far as how many years, I would say if we go after the changes we need and make solid moves in the areas I list, I think it can be done in 2-3 years. Possibly even in 1-2. But it takes a commitment in all phases of the offseason, free agency, draft, and trades.

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                      • Cleve
                        Registered User
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 3014

                        #12
                        Re: So How Long Does It Take?

                        Given the fact that I am unconvinced that Wilson isn't in fact meddling in important personnel and game play decisions.. "How long" becomes forever. That guy was no football genius 20 years ago, and unlike fine wine has decidedly not improved with age.

                        This lowly cart.... it hits harder and has a higher yards
                        per play average than the Bills' offense!

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                        • trapezeus
                          Legendary Zoner
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 19525

                          #13
                          Re: So How Long Does It Take?

                          a jets friend of mine said to me apologetically (not smack talk), "i just don't see how the bills get good in 5 years either. They could get a couple good players, but they never get support or depth."

                          I was kind of just stunned and agreed.

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                          • SabreEleven
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 39563

                            #14
                            Re: So How Long Does It Take?

                            Originally posted by Dying_-2-_Live
                            The counters on 10 years and still running
                            You are right, Apparently it takes more than 10 years.

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                            • X-Era
                              What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 27670

                              #15
                              Re: So How Long Does It Take?

                              Originally posted by trapezeus
                              a jets friend of mine said to me apologetically (not smack talk), "i just don't see how the bills get good in 5 years either. They could get a couple good players, but they never get support or depth."

                              I was kind of just stunned and agreed.
                              Been saying this for years. You have to have solid depth at many spots. When your starting guys like Corto, Ellison, Digi, Chambers due to injury you can and probably will lose games. Your team needs starting quality players in layers.

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