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  • baalworship
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    • May 2003
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    Steve Young on Bills on Sports Center

    They had a segment on Sports Center where they asked Steve Young who should start, Trent Edwards or Ryan Fitzpatrick.

    He laughed and instead of answering the question ripped the Bills for having 8 months to watch all the quarterbacks during the off-season and not knowing who was the best one.

    He also made the point that all those reps in the off-season were valuable and should not have been wasted.

    Steve Young is one of the smartest ex-players and he is right.
  • Bangarang
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    • Sep 2010
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    #2
    Re: Steve Young on Bills on Sports Center

    Everyone laughs at us. We'll get the last laugh though when we almost make the playoffs in 10 years.

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    • justasportsfan
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      • Jul 2002
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      Re: Steve Young on Bills on Sports Center

      It's easy to play coach when you're not there yourself.

      Does this mean Andy Reid should be laughed at because he decided to go with Vick after claiming all offseason long that Kolb was his qb?
      Last edited by justasportsfan; 09-23-2010, 01:59 PM.
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      • patmoran2006
        Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
        • Dec 2005
        • 19840

        #4
        Re: Steve Young on Bills on Sports Center

        Originally posted by justasportsfan
        It's easy to play coach when you're not there yourself.

        Does this mean Andy Reid should be laughed at because he decided to go with Vick after claiming all offseason long that Kolb was his qb?
        The difference between Reid and Gailey is Reid's dilema is which of his quarterback is better.. The Bills dilema is which of the Bills QB's is the lesser of two (3) evils.

        He's absolutely right.. We had eight months to either draft a QB early, mid or late that could stick on the roster, sign a FA or swing a trade for someone available. And after all that time this organization concluded Edwards, Fitz and Brohm were the most viable candidates.. Inexcusable.


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        • Commissioner
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          • Dec 2004
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          Re: Steve Young on Bills on Sports Center

          Originally posted by patmoran2006
          The difference between Reid and Gailey is Reid's dilema is which of his quarterback is better.. The Bills dilema is which of the Bills QB's is the lesser of two (3) evils.

          He's absolutely right.. We had eight months to either draft a QB early, mid or late that could stick on the roster, sign a FA or swing a trade for someone available. And after all that time this organization concluded Edwards, Fitz and Brohm were the most viable candidates.. Inexcusable.
          Reid traded Washington to division rival proclaiming Kolb as the starter... and even said he was the starter Monday before doing a 180.
          Draft Gabbert at #3!

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          • patmoran2006
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            • Dec 2005
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            Re: Steve Young on Bills on Sports Center

            Originally posted by Commissioner
            Reid traded Washington to division rival proclaiming Kolb as the starter... and even said he was the starter Monday before doing a 180.
            I understand. My point was that he feels both Kolb and Vick can get the job done, while conversely though he'll never admit Gailey has zero confidence in Edwards or Fitzpatrick.. If he had any confidence in Fitz, he'd already have been starting or at the very least not have had to hold on all of preseason for a roster spot.

            I don't know if you put the 2010 Bills QB situation on Gailey for thinking he had enough talent already, or on Nix for the same reason.. But its on one of those two for sure. Steve Young is right, almost any offseason move would've bettered the position, except for of course wasting a 7th rounder on Levi Brown, who couldn't even crack the practice squad.

            Which again, is Evaluation101.. How in the hell can you scout and draft a QB long-term prospect and conclude its levi Brown, and then not even have him make your PS?


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            • justasportsfan
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              • Jul 2002
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              Re: Steve Young on Bills on Sports Center

              Originally posted by patmoran2006
              The difference between Reid and Gailey is Reid's dilema is which of his quarterback is better.. The Bills dilema is which of the Bills QB's is the lesser of two (3) evils..
              Andy Reid has had his qb's since last year. He's had more time to assess both and only now he's switching qb's?

              Gailey has NEVER had the chance to see his qb's on gameday FIRST HAND. As what was said in his presser , the difference between the qb's were not that far off. Only now is he learning that Trent is NOT a GAMEDAY qb but a camp qb. HOw can you know that until they play on gameday?

              Originally posted by patmoran2006

              He's absolutely right.. We had eight months to either draft a QB early, mid or late that could stick on the roster, sign a FA or swing a trade for someone available. And after all that time this organization concluded Edwards, Fitz and Brohm were the most viable candidates.. Inexcusable.
              Again, Reid had had more than 8 months. If a PROVEN coach like Reid can't get it right in that time, you can't expect a coach to get it all right in his first few months with his team which is rebuilding.
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              • justasportsfan
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                • Jul 2002
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                Re: Steve Young on Bills on Sports Center

                Originally posted by patmoran2006
                I understand. My point was that he feels both Kolb and Vick can get the job done,
                that has NOTHING to do with Gaileys decision changes.
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                • kingJofNYC
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                  • Sep 2009
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                  Which FA should they have signed?

                  Swing a trade for a QB, which one? They didn't even make a move for Jammal Brown, which was only a 3rd/2nd depending on performance/health, and he would have helped this team for a longer duration than some stop gap QB.

                  Edwards a is smart guy, works hard, looks good in practice, and Chan & Co bought it in. Once the bullets started flying he reverted to the same old player. The light may have gone on in the film room/practice field, but it turned off as soon as he stepped foot on the field.

                  If you want to upgrade the QB position there's only one way, tank and draft one. **** that 7-9/6-10 ****, this is the perfect season to tank if you need a QB. And if Luck/Mallett don't come out, we still won't have a viable QB which would put us at the top the following season.

                  Teams like the Blackhawks/Capitals/Penguins/Tampa Bay Rays didn't suddenly field good teams by signing or trading for Vets, they tanked and built from the ground up. I'm more concerned about who's evaluating personnel than some meaningless stop gap QB we didn't sign.
                  Last edited by kingJofNYC; 09-23-2010, 02:12 PM.

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                  • justasportsfan
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                    • Jul 2002
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                    BTW, both Whisenhunt and Fisher made qb's switches in the last minute and they too have had more time than Gailey to assess their qb's.
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                    • DraftBoy
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                      • Jul 2002
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                      Re: Steve Young on Bills on Sports Center

                      Young is 100% right about the Bills, but in our defense its hard to tell most times which of our options suck the least.
                      COMING SOON...
                      Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                      We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                      • Pinkerton Security
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                        • Feb 2006
                        • 6003

                        #12
                        Re: Steve Young on Bills on Sports Center

                        Here's the thing...I think 95% of us thought, from the preseason, that Trent was our best option going into the regular season. However, then we suddenly get into actual games and WOAH WHATS THIS!! The defenses actually start blitzing!!! And of course Trent wilts under pressure. Trent has the highest upside of all our starters, but that upside is very unlikely to ever be achieved, especially in Buffalo. He needs a very good line, and even with one he will still be a borderline starter at best.

                        I am just saying, Trent was probably our safest bet and he failed miserably.

                        Also, people in this thread are saying this is different than Reid because he got to choose between 2 good Qbs, but in fact Gailey's job and starting QB decision was much, much harder than Reid's, because honestly no matter what decision Gailey made, he was likely to fail.

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                        • kingJofNYC
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                          • Sep 2009
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                          Re: Steve Young on Bills on Sports Center

                          Originally posted by patmoran2006
                          Which again, is Evaluation101.. How in the hell can you scout and draft a QB long-term prospect and conclude its levi Brown, and then not even have him make your PS?
                          The only group who concluded he was viable long term were delusional Bills fans, 7th rounders are fodder. You sometimes find a diamond in the rough, but more often than not they're on the street at the end of camp. Seriously, I can't recall a single rational fan who thought Brown was a long term solution/prospect. Delusion at its finest.
                          Last edited by kingJofNYC; 09-23-2010, 02:15 PM.

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                          • justasportsfan
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                            • Jul 2002
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                            Originally posted by pinkdogg32

                            Also, people in this thread are saying this is different than Reid because he got to choose between 2 good Qbs, but in fact Gailey's job and starting QB decision was much, much harder than Reid's, because honestly no matter what decision Gailey made, he was likely to fail.



                            Gailey is still learning things about the players he inherited.

                            It took an injury to Bledsoe for BB to realize Brady was his man.
                            Last edited by justasportsfan; 09-23-2010, 02:20 PM.
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                            • patmoran2006
                              Ole' Ralphie SCROOGE
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 19840

                              #15
                              Re: Steve Young on Bills on Sports Center

                              Originally posted by kingJofNYC
                              The only group who concluded he was viable long term were delusional Bills fans, 7th rounders are fodder. You sometimes find a diamond in the rough, but more often than not they're on the street at the end of camp. Seriously, I can't recall a single rational fan who thought Brown was a long term solution/prospect. Delusion at its finest.
                              I never thought Brown was a long term solution. But at least use your first draft pick on a QB as a guy you can develop into a possible viable backup.

                              Not a guy who cant stick on the PS


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