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  • HAMMER
    I'm right, Miyagi is wrong.
    • Jul 2003
    • 8132

    Schobel is missed

    How do all you people that couldn't wait for Schobel to leave feel about our pass rush now? It is markedly worse than last year, QB's are camping out, making smores, and shredding our vaunted secondary.
  • Buffalo Thriller
    Registered User
    • Sep 2010
    • 1744

    #2
    Re: Schobel is missed

    I loved schobel
    Originally posted by OpIv37
    You guys, the solution is so simple. Find the crazy kids who are shooting up the schools and have them shoot people getting off planes from West Africa.

    No more school shootings, no more Ebola.

    Obama would have thought of this already if he wasn't a pinko commie Nazi queer-loving wetback-loving Kenyan Indonesian Muslim.

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    • RoscoeMagic
      Registered User
      • Aug 2008
      • 1831

      #3
      Re: Schobel is missed

      Originally posted by HAMMER
      Do you people EVER stop *****ing? Good God, you sound like hormonal teenage girls.
      Internet Breeds Complacency.

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      • RoscoeMagic
        Registered User
        • Aug 2008
        • 1831

        #4
        Re: Schobel is missed

        Seriously though, I loved Schobel. He was our only pass rush for the whole decade, which makes Kelsay's sucking opposite him look so much worse. Schobel still had 10 sacks last year and people hated on him like he was Ryan Denney. It's a joke, I never understood the hate for the man. It's so obvious we need a pass rusher of his caliber right now.
        Internet Breeds Complacency.

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        • OpIv37
          Acid Douching Asswipe
          • Sep 2002
          • 101234

          #5
          Re: Schobel is missed

          Two points:

          1. I seem to remember our pass rush struggling WITH Schobel the past several years.
          2. Notice how out of place Kelsay looks in this new D? There is no way to know for sure, but I suspect Schobel would look just as confused and out of place.

          I will say this, if I had to choose between the two, I'd definitely take Schobel over Kelsay, even if it costs more. But the reality is that we're in a transition period with the D and we need to shed as much of the leftover 4-3 personnel as possible. We'd be slightly better in the short term with Schobel but no better off in the long-term.
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          • Mahdi
            Registered User
            • Mar 2004
            • 10585

            #6
            Re: Schobel is missed

            Pass rush hasn't changed.

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            • YardRat
              Well, lookie here...
              • Dec 2004
              • 86162

              #7
              Re: Schobel is missed

              Who ??
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              • HAMMER
                I'm right, Miyagi is wrong.
                • Jul 2003
                • 8132

                #8
                Re: Schobel is missed

                Originally posted by Mahdi
                Pass rush hasn't changed.
                It has, if you can't see that you aren't watching. It was not stellar by any means but it is worse. People often mistake sack numbers for productivity, you have to get pressure and make a QB uncomfortable. We aren't getting any pressure.

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                • Beebe's Kid
                  Registered User
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 3134

                  #9
                  Re: Schobel is missed

                  Originally posted by HAMMER
                  It has, if you can't see that you aren't watching. It was not stellar by any means but it is worse. People often mistake sack numbers for productivity, you have to get pressure and make a QB uncomfortable. We aren't getting any pressure.
                  My biggest contention with Schobel was that I never saw him chasing a QB out of the pocket. He either got owned, or got one of his sacks. His sacks were rarely game changing...which has been difficult to do, but there were moments we could have used a sack, or some pressure to force a turnover.

                  I didn't like the BS Schobel was putting the team through this year. I wouldn't have had a problem if he would have just come back and played, but he made a scene out of it.

                  I would think that would have been a consensus, but he was one of our better players, making him the target for unwarranted angst.

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                  • Buffalo Thriller
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 1744

                    #10
                    Re: Schobel is missed

                    The pass rush has changed... how many sacks have we even gotten? like 2 in 3 games?
                    Originally posted by OpIv37
                    You guys, the solution is so simple. Find the crazy kids who are shooting up the schools and have them shoot people getting off planes from West Africa.

                    No more school shootings, no more Ebola.

                    Obama would have thought of this already if he wasn't a pinko commie Nazi queer-loving wetback-loving Kenyan Indonesian Muslim.

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                    • HAMMER
                      I'm right, Miyagi is wrong.
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 8132

                      #11
                      Re: Schobel is missed

                      Originally posted by Beebe's Kid
                      My biggest contention with Schobel was that I never saw him chasing a QB out of the pocket. He either got owned, or got one of his sacks. His sacks were rarely game changing...which has been difficult to do, but there were moments we could have used a sack, or some pressure to force a turnover.

                      I didn't like the BS Schobel was putting the team through this year. I wouldn't have had a problem if he would have just come back and played, but he made a scene out of it.

                      I would think that would have been a consensus, but he was one of our better players, making him the target for unwarranted angst.
                      I guess the bottom line is he really didn't want to be here. But my point is that he was a more important piece of our defense than people wanted to admit.

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                      • OpIv37
                        Acid Douching Asswipe
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 101234

                        #12
                        Re: Schobel is missed

                        Originally posted by HAMMER
                        I guess the bottom line is he really didn't want to be here. But my point is that he was a more important piece of our defense than people wanted to admit.
                        that just proves how very average our team has been for the last decade.
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                        • Beebe's Kid
                          Registered User
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 3134

                          #13
                          Re: Schobel is missed

                          Originally posted by HAMMER
                          I guess the bottom line is he really didn't want to be here. But my point is that he was a more important piece of our defense than people wanted to admit.
                          No doubt...

                          Being on the defense on this team is the second hardest job, behind QB. I guess unless your name is Stroud...then you can make a small fortune, and do nothing.


                          I wonder if people forget to ***** about him because he is ****ing invisible?

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                          • OpIv37
                            Acid Douching Asswipe
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 101234

                            #14
                            Re: Schobel is missed

                            Originally posted by Buffalo Thriller
                            The pass rush has changed... how many sacks have we even gotten? like 2 in 3 games?
                            It's a different defense so it's comparing apples to oranges.

                            Would we have more sacks if Schobel played? It's possible, but it's just as possible that he'd be completely lost in this D, like Kelsay.
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                            • Beebe's Kid
                              Registered User
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 3134

                              #15
                              Re: Schobel is missed

                              Originally posted by Buffalo Thriller
                              The pass rush has changed... how many sacks have we even gotten? like 2 in 3 games?
                              4

                              Poz (that no good piece of **** mother ****er)
                              Scott
                              Williams
                              Ellis

                              Half of our sack production is from 2nd string...
                              Last edited by Beebe's Kid; 10-01-2010, 12:41 PM.

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