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    I Hate to Tell Some of You...

    But we hit rock bottom after our loss to Jacksonville, right before our bye week. Since then, we have lost 3 games by 3 points (2 in overtime), and won our last 2. The way we are playing, WE WILL NOT HAVE THE FIRST OVERALL DRAFT PICK.

    And I'm glad. I'll take the wins, and I'll take our chances of drafting a quality guy with our 3rd, or 5th, or whatever pick.

    The way Fitz is playing, we don't have to reach for a QB. He is probably not our long term solution, but if the QB we really like isn't there, we can live with him for a year or two and draft defensive front 7 players, which we desperately need. In fact, we might be able to trade down more easily and get additional help.

    And we don't have as many holes to fill on offense as we once thought, with some of our young O-linemen developing, and our WR corps looking better every week.

    I know we bottomed out sooner than some of you would have liked, and we won't be 0-16, and we probably won't be able to pick the mystical and magical Andrew Luck. But I'll take winning a few, developing our offensive guys, getting this team some confidence, and drafting defense, defense, defense every time.
    Let's at least give Whaley a chance.

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    Re: I Hate to Tell Some of You...

    I'll take the wins. Ultimately the main players on our team next year will be the guys we have this year, so its important that they play well together.

    Rookies are nice and fun but they rarely make the difference between an average team and a playoff team.
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    Re: I Hate to Tell Some of You...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Reimers
    The way we are playing, WE WILL NOT HAVE THE FIRST OVERALL DRAFT PICK.
    Those dreaming of Luck can forget about it. The Bills can concentrate on defense. Or possible draft Mallet.


    Draft a franchise QB that X-Era would be proud to put in his user name for the next 13 years.

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    Re: I Hate to Tell Some of You...

    Well said.

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    Re: I Hate to Tell Some of You...

    There are no sure things in the draft, other than the fact that a #1 pick costs a huge amount of money with no guarantee of performance.

    Winning can become a habit, so it's better to try and win as many games between now and the end of the season than to lose out just to get a higher pick.

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    Re: I Hate to Tell Some of You...

    If Fitz can continue to play the way he has played, he'd probably keep any would-be-rookie on the bench anyway. I still think they should draft a QB, but it's definitely not as urgent.
    If anything, this could bode well for drafting an extremely talented but slightly raw QB who would benefit from a couple of seasons learning and getting used to NFL speed as a #2 (like Aaron Rogers did).

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    Re: I Hate to Tell Some of You...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dujek
    There are no sure things in the draft, other than the fact that a #1 pick costs a huge amount of money with no guarantee of performance.

    Winning can become a habit, so it's better to try and win as many games between now and the end of the season than to lose out just to get a higher pick.


    Andrew Luck could be an exception to the rule, the guy looks like the second coming of Peyton Manning, but that ship has probably sailed,

    Mallet , Newton, Locker maybe...

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    Re: I Hate to Tell Some of You...

    I just hope they keep winning. It's fun.

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    Re: I Hate to Tell Some of You...

    I got no issue whatsoever with winning, you always try and win.
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    Re: I Hate to Tell Some of You...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff1220
    If Fitz can continue to play the way he has played, he'd probably keep any would-be-rookie on the bench anyway. I still think they should draft a QB, but it's definitely not as urgent.
    If anything, this could bode well for drafting an extremely talented but slightly raw QB who would benefit from a couple of seasons learning and getting used to NFL speed as a #2 (like Aaron Rogers did).
    That qb is Locker.

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    Re: I Hate to Tell Some of You...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Reimers
    But we hit rock bottom after our loss to Jacksonville, right before our bye week. Since then, we have lost 3 games by 3 points (2 in overtime), and won our last 2. The way we are playing, WE WILL NOT HAVE THE FIRST OVERALL DRAFT PICK.

    And I'm glad. I'll take the wins, and I'll take our chances of drafting a quality guy with our 3rd, or 5th, or whatever pick.

    The way Fitz is playing, we don't have to reach for a QB. He is probably not our long term solution, but if the QB we really like isn't there, we can live with him for a year or two and draft defensive front 7 players, which we desperately need. In fact, we might be able to trade down more easily and get additional help.

    And we don't have as many holes to fill on offense as we once thought, with some of our young O-linemen developing, and our WR corps looking better every week.

    I know we bottomed out sooner than some of you would have liked, and we won't be 0-16, and we probably won't be able to pick the mystical and magical Andrew Luck. But I'll take winning a few, developing our offensive guys, getting this team some confidence, and drafting defense, defense, defense every time.
    Winning is always good it helps validate the coaches schemes to the players, and motivates the fan base, and the players as well.

    No matter what if you are fan of a team you should always rout for a win no matter what. I never want the bills to draft in the top 3 ever again because if you miss it kills your franchise and the compensation is so high you can not trade out of it.

    Like I said winning and the way we are playing is going to help change the culture around Buffalo and that starts this season, gets better next, and hopefully in 2012 we are a playoff contender.

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    Re: I Hate to Tell Some of You...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Reimers
    But we hit rock bottom after our loss to Jacksonville, right before our bye week. Since then, we have lost 3 games by 3 points (2 in overtime), and won our last 2. The way we are playing, WE WILL NOT HAVE THE FIRST OVERALL DRAFT PICK.

    And I'm glad. I'll take the wins, and I'll take our chances of drafting a quality guy with our 3rd, or 5th, or whatever pick.

    The way Fitz is playing, we don't have to reach for a QB. He is probably not our long term solution, but if the QB we really like isn't there, we can live with him for a year or two and draft defensive front 7 players, which we desperately need. In fact, we might be able to trade down more easily and get additional help.

    And we don't have as many holes to fill on offense as we once thought, with some of our young O-linemen developing, and our WR corps looking better every week.

    I know we bottomed out sooner than some of you would have liked, and we won't be 0-16, and we probably won't be able to pick the mystical and magical Andrew Luck. But I'll take winning a few, developing our offensive guys, getting this team some confidence, and drafting defense, defense, defense every time.


    I agree with everything Jan said here.

    Rock bottom wasn't as bad as I thought, and we've improved since then already. We've been playing with a lot of heart, including the usual semi-punks like Whitner and McKelvin, so you know they're all starting to buy into Gailey's system and method of coaching. I love it.

    The only major glaring holes we have are RT, NT, and a OLB. Otherwise we just need some depth and a development QB.

    Holy crap Stevie Johnson's and even Roscoe's emergence really helped us fill a void.

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    Re: I Hate to Tell Some of You...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Reimers
    But we hit rock bottom after our loss to Jacksonville, right before our bye week. Since then, we have lost 3 games by 3 points (2 in overtime), and won our last 2. The way we are playing, WE WILL NOT HAVE THE FIRST OVERALL DRAFT PICK.

    And I'm glad. I'll take the wins, and I'll take our chances of drafting a quality guy with our 3rd, or 5th, or whatever pick.

    The way Fitz is playing, we don't have to reach for a QB. He is probably not our long term solution, but if the QB we really like isn't there, we can live with him for a year or two and draft defensive front 7 players, which we desperately need. In fact, we might be able to trade down more easily and get additional help.

    And we don't have as many holes to fill on offense as we once thought, with some of our young O-linemen developing, and our WR corps looking better every week.

    I know we bottomed out sooner than some of you would have liked, and we won't be 0-16, and we probably won't be able to pick the mystical and magical Andrew Luck. But I'll take winning a few, developing our offensive guys, getting this team some confidence, and drafting defense, defense, defense every time.

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    Re: I Hate to Tell Some of You...

    as long as we win while demonstrating very obvious improvements then lets win.....

    last 4 years we won 7 games for 3 seasons and 6 games last year and never once did I ever feel like the team was improving.


    This year started off pathetic and rough, but I'm more excited today then I have been in a long long time.


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    Re: I Hate to Tell Some of You...

    Quote Originally Posted by ddaryl
    as long as we win while demonstrating very obvious improvements then lets win.....

    last 4 years we won 7 games for 3 seasons and 6 games last year and never once did I ever feel like the team was improving.


    This year started off pathetic and rough, but I'm more excited today then I have been in a long long time.
    I just hope we don't max out as a team that can't earn enough wins for the playoffs. And moreover that the QB isn't a prime reason.


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    Re: I Hate to Tell Some of You...

    Great post!! I totally agree w/ you 100%. I do think if we can pick 1, 2, or 3, we'll have a legit shot @ Luck, but like you said, if someone else gets him, oh well, there are many other good players that we can select that can help this team. Seriously, if no Luck, Darius, Clayborn, Bowers, would all make terrific additions to our defense.
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    Re: I Hate to Tell Some of You...

    yep, now that we dont have the first pick Im all for wins. there was a romantic drama about picking #1 but thats not happening now so lets have some fun wins
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    Re: I Hate to Tell Some of You...

    Quote Originally Posted by Romes
    I'll take the wins. Ultimately the main players on our team next year will be the guys we have this year, so its important that they play well together.

    Rookies are nice and fun but they rarely make the difference between an average team and a playoff team.
    Why, are they going to be more then a 5-6 win team next year? Please tell me you don't believe that.

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    Re: I Hate to Tell Some of You...

    I'm starting to come around to the fact that we're nowhere near the worst team in the league.

    Luck is a real long shot and Fitz is a more than competent placeholder. Build the defense and the running game and go from there. I trust Nix/Gailey.
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    Re: I Hate to Tell Some of You...

    I'll be saying this over and over until April, and beyond, I'm sure: it's not where you draft, it's who you draft.

    Trust me, I'd love to get Andrew Luck. I'm definitely on his bandwagon. That being said, why is he the only chance we have at being good? Last I checked, more QB's have success than just 1 guy every 3 years. There's also plenty of ways to build a very good team, then find a QB to plug in (sort of like the Jets did with Sanchez, though he was the wrong choice, imo, or like the Ravens did with Flacco).

    If we simply draft the best player in the early rounds, we should be successful. Our lack of success the last 11 years or so isn't because we didn't draft high enough - it's because of who we drafted when we did. It's also because the coaching has been abysmal in terms of player development and schemes (mostly referring to Jauron).

    At this point, I think we're set up pretty well to draft a mid-round QB, let him sit for a year or so to develop under Fitzpatrick and Gailey's tutelage, then see what he has. Meanwhile, we can draft for defense, fill some holes on offense and depth.
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