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    Re: #BillsMafia

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37
    There is no need for a whole forum devoted to discussing only 25% of the team. And if you went into the regular Bills forum, you'd still see at least 25% positive posts.
    It's not up to you to decide what there should be a forum for and what there shouldn't be a forum for. If they wanted to create one for Bills Mafia, who mainly like to talk about positive things, that's their prerogative.
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    Re: #BillsMafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Dozerdog
    Last word o this subject -

    This semi-private enterprise (Billszone) is giving another group (Billsmafia) a forum to make up any rules they feel like. In the long run it's a partnership we are trying out to grow and strengthen the board by bringing in fans, former players and even potentially current players .

    They can invite anyone they want- and they can keep out anyone they want.


    Now we all know you aren't a stupid idiot. You know what this forum is about and you know you have a place to post what you want when you want- the regular Bills forum. At this point it's all about pushing limits- making a scene, and just attempting to ruin something before it gets started.


    Who gives a **** if this forum is about rooting for a team or about Ballet Lessons. If you insist on ignoring the rules and limits then we will just block your access. But right now, it's no longer the concept of the forum- as stated already your not a retard and can figure it out.

    Now it's just about a pissing match- and making volunteers who run this place work just a bit harder then they have to.

    Thanks again.
    The people who want to post positive things have the Bills forum to post what they want when they want too.

    People like me have to deal with the positive drivel like "we're going to win 8 games" and "Easley is better than Evans." The people who only want to see the positive have to deal with the reality from people like me. That's just how it is.

    I don't know why some of you feel the need to isolate yourself from the reality.

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    Re: #BillsMafia

    Quote Originally Posted by psubills62
    It's not up to you to decide what there should be a forum for and what there shouldn't be a forum for. If they wanted to create one for Bills Mafia, who mainly like to talk about positive things, that's their prerogative.
    Well, it's a stupid prerogative, and I'm tired of dealing with stupidity. I may not be able to change it, but I can and will call people out on it.

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    Re: #BillsMafia

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37
    because there is no need for a forum just to discuss the positives of the team. There are plenty of positives in the regular BZ already. I just went in there and the first thread was entitled "Our defense rocks!"
    Please don't tell me you're taking that thread seriously.

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    Re: #BillsMafia

    Quote Originally Posted by psubills62
    Please don't tell me you're taking that thread seriously.
    read the thread- I'm not sure what Justa's intent was in starting it, but there are more than a couple truly positive responses mixed in with the sarcasm.

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    Re: #BillsMafia

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37
    Well, it's a stupid prerogative, and I'm tired of dealing with stupidity. I may not be able to change it, but I can and will call people out on it.
    It's a message board for people who want to post. The forums generally reflect the posts people want to make. Whether you like it or not, there are positives about this team, and some people enjoy talking about them. If you don't like it, then don't post here, it's pretty simple.

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    Re: #BillsMafia

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37
    because there is no need for a forum just to discuss the positives of the team. .

    Says who? You?

    There is no need for the Kardashians to have a TV show, there is no need for pet psychologists, there is no need for half the crap they sell at the "As seen on TV" store at my local mall. But there is an audience out there that wants it- so we will provide it.


    As far as I'm concerned- there is a Billszone business opportunity here. 350 plus (and growing) facebook members say there is a potential "Billszone Need" to give them what they want.

    Billszone does not worry about what one guy thinks- only if it is disruptive to our goals.

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    Re: #BillsMafia

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37
    read the thread- I'm not sure what Justa's intent was in starting it, but there are more than a couple truly positive responses mixed in with the sarcasm.
    Yes, those two slightly positive posts are just absolutely overwhelming the boards.

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    Re: #BillsMafia

    Psychotherapists could have a field day on this board.



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    Re: #BillsMafia

    Quote Originally Posted by psubills62
    It's a message board for people who want to post. The forums generally reflect the posts people want to make. Whether you like it or not, there are positives about this team, and some people enjoy talking about them. If you don't like it, then don't post here, it's pretty simple.
    It's not that I don't like talking about "positives"

    It's that people who only see the positives to the point where they want their own forum with no "negative" comments are not grounded in reality.

    I come here to have a realistic discussion about the team. If people insist on only discussing the positives, then that can't happen. And if that's how this board is going to be, then maybe I should find someplace else to post.

    But, you're not going to get rid of me that easily.

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    Re: #BillsMafia

    Quote Originally Posted by Dozerdog
    Says who? You?

    There is no need for the Kardashians to have a TV show, there is no need for pet psychologists, there is no need for half the crap they sell at the "As seen on TV" store at my local mall. But there is an audience out there that wants it- so we will provide it.


    As far as I'm concerned- there is a Billszone business opportunity here. 350 plus (and growing) facebook members say there is a potential "Billszone Need" to give them what they want.

    Billszone does not worry about what one guy thinks- only if it is disruptive to our goals.
    The Kardashians TV show is stupid.
    Pet psychologists are stupid.
    "As Seen on TV" stores are stupid.
    A "positives only" forum is stupid.

    If 350 BZ members wanted a NAMBLA forum, would you give it to them?

    Ok, that's an extreme example. Here's a more realistic one: if this board had 350 members who were Dolphins fans, would you give them a Dolphins forum?

    Stupidity en masse is still stupidity.

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    Re: #BillsMafia

    Op gets removed from this forum in 3...2...1...

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    Re: #BillsMafia

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37
    It's not that I don't like talking about "positives"
    Could have fooled me.

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37
    It's that people who only see the positives to the point where they want their own forum with no "negative" comments are not grounded in reality.

    I come here to have a realistic discussion about the team. If people insist on only discussing the positives, then that can't happen. And if that's how this board is going to be, then maybe I should find someplace else to post.

    But, you're not going to get rid of me that easily.
    Maybe the reason they want this forum is to prevent generally positive threads from being 5-page arguments over petty, snarky, and generally unnecessary comments that some people just have to make because they just HAVE to have their way. Maybe sometimes people see reality a little differently than you do. Not every post talking about the Bills in a positive light is lacking reality.

    It's again come down to an issue of...what the heck is your problem? For someone who, from what I remember, is a fan of letting people do what they want as long as it's not harming you, you absolutely love to piss all over anything you deem as "stupid." From what I can see, the only effect it has on the normal Bills Zone board is that some posters who join for the Bills Mafia may end up posting there too. Which simply means you have a lot more people to introduce "reality" (your version, that is) to.

    It has no effect on you unless you decide to post here, which you obviously feel the need to (for some reason). I'm sure there's several forums on Bills Zone that a number of other people find stupid. Doesn't mean they go there and start trying to crap all over things other people want to discuss.

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    Re: #BillsMafia

    Quote Originally Posted by psubills62
    Could have fooled me.


    Maybe the reason they want this forum is to prevent generally positive threads from being 5-page arguments over petty, snarky, and generally unnecessary comments that some people just have to make because they just HAVE to have their way. Maybe sometimes people see reality a little differently than you do. Not every post talking about the Bills in a positive light is lacking reality.

    It's again come down to an issue of...what the heck is your problem? For someone who, from what I remember, is a fan of letting people do what they want as long as it's not harming you, you absolutely love to piss all over anything you deem as "stupid." From what I can see, the only effect it has on the normal Bills Zone board is that some posters who join for the Bills Mafia may end up posting there too. Which simply means you have a lot more people to introduce "reality" (your version, that is) to.

    It has no effect on you unless you decide to post here, which you obviously feel the need to (for some reason). I'm sure there's several forums on Bills Zone that a number of other people find stupid. Doesn't mean they go there and start trying to crap all over things other people want to discuss.
    Reality is what it is. If someone sees it differently than me, then one or both of us are wrong. And when I'm right, I will defend my comments. I know that I am right when I say you can't realistically discuss this team without the negative coming up, and I am defending my comments. If you consider that to be petty, snarky, whatever, I really don't care. Take your own advice and don't come here.

    And again, why am I wrong for wanting people to be realistic, but the people who only want to discuss the positives are not? It doesn't affect them if I post realistically in the main forum, so your logic works in both directions.

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    Re: #BillsMafia

    Let's just discuss the positives already!!!

    I'll start...


    So, the new uniforms are nice.

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    Re: #BillsMafia

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37
    Reality is what it is. If someone sees it differently than me, then one or both of us are wrong. And when I'm right, I will defend my comments. I know that I am right when I say you can't realistically discuss this team without the negative coming up, and I am defending my comments. If you consider that to be petty, snarky, whatever, I really don't care. Take your own advice and don't come here.

    And again, why am I wrong for wanting people to be realistic, but the people who only want to discuss the positives are not? It doesn't affect them if I post realistically in the main forum, so your logic works in both directions.
    Why wouldn't I come here? I'm not the one who got into an argument about whether this forum should have been created or not. Reality is what it is...but the conclusions people draw from reality are not black and white. Preseason games are a great example of that.

    Of course it doesn't affect them if you post realistically in the main forum. That's why they don't care if you do that. And I'm really, really struggling to figure out why on earth you care SO MUCH about this forum. It obviously doesn't concern you.

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    Re: #BillsMafia

    C'mon positive only!

    So, what lovely weather we're having, no?

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    Re: #BillsMafia

    Hey how about the new endzones!?!

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    Re: #BillsMafia

    Wow, thanks for all the reality Op. 'Preciate it.

    And for the record, I love the new uniforms and new endzones. And this sunshine's right up my alley. :)

    #BillsMafia isn't about rainbows, butterflies, and rose-colored glasses -- it's about choosing not be Mike Schopp or Sal Maroiriaoanaona (or whatever his name is) and only ever looking at the negative.

    You can discuss an entire subject without it devolving into Ralph's cheap and Buddy's old and stupid. "Same old Bills!"

    Thanks but no. And seriously, you know what this forum is and what it's for. If you don't agree then stay out. No one is making you come in here.
    Last edited by mrdeadlier; 09-02-2011 at 03:33 PM.
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    Re: #BillsMafia

    Quote Originally Posted by mrdeadlier
    Wow, thanks for all the reality Op. 'Preciate it.

    And for the record, I love the new uniforms and new endzones. And this sunshine's right up my alley. :)

    #BillsMafia isn't about rainbows, butterflies, and rose-colored glasses -- it's about choosing not be Mike Schopp or Sal Maroiriaoanaona (or whatever his name is) and only ever looking at the negative.

    You can discuss an entire subject without it devolving into Ralph's cheap and Buddy's old and stupid. "Same old Bills!"

    Thanks but no. And seriously, you know what this forum is and what it's for. If you don't agree then stay out. No one is making you come in here.
    Op is the most miserable bastard we know. But we love him just the same.

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