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    Why wouldn't veteran OL depth help us right now?

    A few of us argued that we should have added some veteran OL depth from FA.

    Now Levitre will start at his 3rd position this year. He was put on his back multiple times vs. Ware as our starting LT. And since we don't have a vet G/C backup were now forced to move him to C. Basically it shows little to no faith in Colin Brown which shouldn't really surprise anyone. But, shouldn't we have been able to see this potential issue ahead of time?

    I like what I think Hairston can do at LT but no one knew for sure whether he could even handle LT coming into this year. We also had question marks about Pears and Urbik but both have done well IMO.

    I just feel like we knew we would sustain a injury or two on the OL and that we should have also known that we didn't have quality backups. I'd feel much better if we had signed a vet or two than to keep moving Levitre.
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    Re: Why wouldn't veteran OL depth help us right now?

    The question I have is what veteran did we want to bring in that we missed on? We gave it our all for Clabo, we dont deal with off the field issue or lazy lable players. So who did we ignore that we shouldn't have in people's minds?
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    Re: Why wouldn't veteran OL depth help us right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Era
    A few of us argued that we should have added some veteran OL depth from FA.

    Now Levitre will start at his 3rd position this year. He was put on his back multiple times vs. Ware as our starting LT. And since we don't have a vet G/C backup were now forced to move him to C. Basically it shows little to no faith in Colin Brown which shouldn't really surprise anyone. But, shouldn't we have been able to see this potential issue ahead of time?

    I like what I think Hairston can do at LT but no one knew for sure whether he could even handle LT coming into this year. We also had question marks about Pears and Urbik but both have done well IMO.

    I just feel like we knew we would sustain a injury or two on the OL and that we should have also known that we didn't have quality backups. I'd feel much better if we had signed a vet or two than to keep moving Levitre.
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    Re: Why wouldn't veteran OL depth help us right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy
    The question I have is what veteran did we want to bring in that we missed on? We gave it our all for Clabo, we dont deal with off the field issue or lazy lable players. So who did we ignore that we shouldn't have in people's minds?
    Brian Waters

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    Re: Why wouldn't veteran OL depth help us right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Era
    A few of us argued that we should have added some veteran OL depth from FA.

    Now Levitre will start at his 3rd position this year. He was put on his back multiple times vs. Ware as our starting LT. And since we don't have a vet G/C backup were now forced to move him to C. Basically it shows little to no faith in Colin Brown which shouldn't really surprise anyone. But, shouldn't we have been able to see this potential issue ahead of time?

    I like what I think Hairston can do at LT but no one knew for sure whether he could even handle LT coming into this year. We also had question marks about Pears and Urbik but both have done well IMO.

    I just feel like we knew we would sustain a injury or two on the OL and that we should have also known that we didn't have quality backups. I'd feel much better if we had signed a vet or two than to keep moving Levitre.
    Well, Chan & Buddy had no question about Pears & Urbik. I posted before the season started that Chan thought they had talent when people on the board questioned how good they were.

    Chan did say the Bills had no depth on the OL before the season started. There were no quality backups available that the Bills were able to attract.

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    Re: Why wouldn't veteran OL depth help us right now?

    Other than keeping Hangartner there was no one for depth. Anyone who was signed in FA, even late did so because they would be paid like they would start and in fact do start.

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    Re: Why wouldn't veteran OL depth help us right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by cookie G
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    Where was he going to play? I agree I think he's better than Urbik/Rhinehart but the thread was about veteran depth. I dont think Waters would of played depth here.

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    Re: Why wouldn't veteran OL depth help us right now?

    Ruben Brown, House Ballard, Will Wolford, Jim Ritcher-all available.

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    Re: Why wouldn't veteran OL depth help us right now?

    We got lucky to finish the year with Incognito last year IMO. Bills could really have used his this year.

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    Re: Why wouldn't veteran OL depth help us right now?

    Most teams struggle to have 5 starting caliber players on the Oline, the Bills have 7. Yet the Bills have no depth? And I'm willing to bet Levitre will be better than any washed up scrub center that you would of brought in.

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    Re: Why wouldn't veteran OL depth help us right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by PTI
    We got lucky to finish the year with Incognito last year IMO. Bills could really have used his this year.
    Incognito didn't play for the Bills last year.

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    Re: Why wouldn't veteran OL depth help us right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bills
    Most teams struggle to have 5 starting caliber players on the Oline, the Bills have 7. Yet the Bills have no depth? And I'm willing to bet Levitre will be better than any washed up scrub center that you would of brought in.
    MOST teams struggle to have 5 starting caliber players on the Oline? I don't know if it could be argued that most losing teams struggle to have 5 starting caliber players on the OL. Certainly every winning team has 5 starting caliber players on the OL.

    Who besides Wood, Levitre & Urbik would start for most teams? I would say NOBODY. Just because a player has started for the Bills, that does not make him starting caliber, it just means the Bills had nobody better.
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    Re: Why wouldn't veteran OL depth help us right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by better days
    MOST teams struggle to have 5 starting caliber players on the Oline? I don't know if it could be argued that most losing teams struggle to have 5 starting caliber players on the OL. Certainly every winning team has 5 starting caliber players on the OL.

    Who besides Wood, Levitre & Urbik would start for most teams? I would say NOBODY. Just because a player has started for the Bills, that does not make him starting caliber, it just means the Bills had nobody better.
    Pears is better than atleast half the RTs in the league and Bell is an adequate starting LT. But ok signing an scrub center would certainly help us.

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    Re: Why wouldn't veteran OL depth help us right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bills
    Pears is better than atleast half the RTs in the league and Bell is an adequate starting LT. But ok signing an scrub center would certainly help us.
    I like Pears, he is a decent RT. Maybe he could start for half the teams in the league, but half is not MOST.

    I am not advocating signing a Center myself. I think Levitre will do as well if not better than anyone the Bills could get.

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    Re: Why wouldn't veteran OL depth help us right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy
    Where was he going to play? I agree I think he's better than Urbik/Rhinehart but the thread was about veteran depth. I dont think Waters would of played depth here.
    He would have been, and would be starting at RG.

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    Re: Why wouldn't veteran OL depth help us right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by better days
    I like Pears, he is a decent RT. Maybe he could start for half the teams in the league, but half is not MOST.

    I am not advocating signing a Center myself. I think Levitre will do as well if not better than anyone the Bills could get.
    I never said most, I said all the players on our Oline is starting caliber, which they have clearly proven to be.

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    Re: Why wouldn't veteran OL depth help us right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bills
    I never said most, I said all the players on our Oline is starting caliber, which they have clearly proven to be.
    You said MOST teams struggle to have 5 starting quality players on the OL while the Bills have 7 in your original post. That would imply Pears could start on most teams since he starts on the Bills.

    The players that have started on the Bills have proven they are the best players the Bills have. That does not mean they have proven they could start for most teams.

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    Re: Why wouldn't veteran OL depth help us right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bills
    Most teams struggle to have 5 starting caliber players on the Oline, the Bills have 7. Yet the Bills have no depth? And I'm willing to bet Levitre will be better than any washed up scrub center that you would of brought in.
    Here is the post I was refering to.

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    Re: Why wouldn't veteran OL depth help us right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Bills
    I never said most, I said all the players on our Oline is starting caliber, which they have clearly proven to be.
    They have not proven anything. The game plan has been designed around getting the ball out of Fitz's hands quickly so that the Oline deficiencies are not taken advantage of. Just look at how we rarely get to throw any long ball. It is partly b'cse Fitz is terrible at it, but also partly b'cse they are in his face before it can develop.

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    Re: Why wouldn't veteran OL depth help us right now?

    Quote Originally Posted by cookie G
    He would have been, and would be starting at RG.
    I dont disagree but its not what I asked about. This thread intent was about veteran depth. Waters never would of been depth.

    If it was about starters there are a number you could say we missed out on.

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