Fitz's Career Completion Percentage Vs. Other QBs

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  • imbondz
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    • Jan 2003
    • 26041

    Fitz's Career Completion Percentage Vs. Other QBs

    I know i'm going to come across as a Fitz homer, which i'm not, but we talk about he sucks at accuracy, how much does 5% make in the success of a QB? I would say alot. But what about 1-2% difference in completion rates?

    He's comparable to Eli Manning and Matthew Stafford career completion wise. He's actually above both if you just take Fitz's time in Buffalo.

    Fitz Career in Buffalo only - 59.9% (in 2011 - 62%)
    So against what has been said on this board, he's improved completion % wise.

    VS.

    Elite QBs Career Completion %:
    Drew Brees - 65.9%
    Peyton Manning - 64.9%
    Brady - 63.8%
    Philip Rivers - 63.6%
    Ben Roethlisberger - 63.1%

    Random QBs

    Jay Cutler - 61.1%
    Matt Ryan - 60.9%
    Matthew Stafford 59.8%
    Eli Manning - 58.4%
    Alex Smith 58.1%
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  • The Jokeman
    Registered User
    • Dec 2003
    • 9995

    #2
    Re: Fitz's Career Completion Percentage Vs. Other QBs

    I won't be the last to post it but Fitz's problem is he's a very streaky passer. When's he's on, like we saw in the 1st quarter at the Patriots, he's very good. Yet when he's off, like we saw in the other quarters at the Patriots he's hurrendous. I will give him a small break since Stevie and Chandler were out which just says how "good" our depth is.

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    • Mski
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      • Mar 2006
      • 6753

      #3
      Re: Fitz's Career Completion Percentage Vs. Other QBs

      as DB and I have said in another thread, completion % doesnt directly correlate to accuracy... but from what i hear from ""experts"" is that 63% seems to be the magical over/under for completion% and long term success... draftboy would probably know best, but i think Kiper says college qb's need to be above 65% to have a chance in the pros
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      • imbondz
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        • Jan 2003
        • 26041

        #4
        Re: Fitz's Career Completion Percentage Vs. Other QBs

        Originally posted by Mski
        as DB and I have said in another thread, completion % doesnt directly correlate to accuracy... but from what i hear from ""experts"" is that 63% seems to be the magical over/under for completion% and long term success... draftboy would probably know best, but i think Kiper says college qb's need to be above 65% to have a chance in the pros
        ok great than Fitz is only 1% away since he was at 62% in 2011.
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        • mightysimi
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          • Mar 2010
          • 6331

          #5
          Re: Fitz's Career Completion Percentage Vs. Other QBs

          It should be higher with all the 4 yard underneath throws.

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          • Philagape
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            • Jul 2002
            • 19432

            #6
            Re: Fitz's Career Completion Percentage Vs. Other QBs

            What way are these QBs trending? When Fitz plays a few good games in the beginning and tanks over the second half of the season, I don't care what his career numbers are.
            When it got to be late in the season, and he needed to make a tough throw to keep the Bills in a game, how did you feel when he dropped back to pass? Did you expect the Fitzmagic, or did you think, "oh please oh please oh please ..."
            The guy led the league in interceptions. That destroys any other number you can possibly come up with.
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            • Stewie
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              • Aug 2002
              • 11567

              #7
              Re: Fitz's Career Completion Percentage Vs. Other QBs

              Completion percentage alone doesn't tell the whole story, you have to look at yard per attempt and attempts per interception.

              I'd rather take a guy who puts it downfield, and has a 50% completion and a 9.0 ypa, than a guy who likes throwing to his backs and has a 66% completion and a 6.0 ypa. Likewise, I'd rather have a 50% completion rate and 40 throws per interception, than a 66% completion rate and 20 throws per interception.

              edit:

              To further this line of thought, fitzpatrick was #9 in the NFL among starting QB's in completion percentage. Numbers 10-15 are Hasselbeck, Smith, Ryan, Schaub, Manning and Palmer. All five of those guys had a higher YPA. In fact, you have to go all the way to #21 on the completion percentage list to find a guy (Cassel) with a lower YPA. What does that tell me? What we all know by watching recent bills games; Fitzpatrick couldn't throw the long ball this year. And completion percentage in a vacuum is kinda irrelevant as a stat.
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              • Crisis
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                • Aug 2004
                • 12738

                #8
                Re: Fitz's Career Completion Percentage Vs. Other QBs

                What's his YPA look like compared to other QBs with the same completion%?
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                • PTI
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                  • Jan 2011
                  • 5316

                  #9
                  Re: Fitz's Career Completion Percentage Vs. Other QBs

                  Fitz is no differant than Kelly Holcomb really, and less accurate, KH has career 39 TDs, 38 INTs, a 79.2 QB rating, and think about this, Holcomb had a 63.3 completion percentage, and dude could not sniff a starting spot, and when he played it was before the no touch after 5 yard rule came in as well. Fitz and KH, same problem, KH has a career 6.6 YPA and throws picks as much as TDs and was streaky.

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                  • Stewie
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                    • Aug 2002
                    • 11567

                    #10
                    Re: Fitz's Career Completion Percentage Vs. Other QBs

                    the guys within 2 completion percentage points (plus or minus) of fitzpatrick this year, and their ypa, listed in order of completion %

                    stafford: 7.6
                    rapistburger: 7.95
                    rivers: 7.95
                    freeman: 6.52
                    fitzpatrick: 6.74
                    hasselbeck: 6.89
                    smith: 7.06
                    ryan: 7.38
                    schaub: 8.49
                    manning: 8.38
                    palmer: 8.39
                    moore: 7.20
                    jackson: 6.87
                    newton: 7.84

                    These guys ranged from a 60.0 completion (newton) to 64.0 (stafford). As you can see, all of them except freeman had a higher YPA, many by significant amounts.
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                    • DrGraves
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                      • Mar 2008
                      • 2693

                      #11
                      Re: Fitz's Career Completion Percentage Vs. Other QBs

                      completion percentage doesn't mean anything if you're throwing as many picks as TD's

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                      • NOT THE DUDE...
                        Formerly MARCELL DAREUS POWER, now posting as DANNY BATTEN POWER
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 8826

                        #12
                        Re: Fitz's Career Completion Percentage Vs. Other QBs

                        Originally posted by DrGraves
                        completion percentage doesn't mean anything if you're throwing as many picks as TD's
                        but its ok when brees and eli throw 22 plus picks...

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                        yet fitz still was avg during the 2nd half of the season..... you guys are impossible...

                        HES THE QB, GET OVER IT. what do you want to do? give flynn 50mil for 1 good start....
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                        • Philagape
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 19432

                          #13
                          Re: Fitz's Career Completion Percentage Vs. Other QBs

                          Originally posted by MARCELL DAREUS POWER
                          but its ok when brees and eli throw 22 plus picks...
                          Yeah it really is, because the good they do outweighs the bad. That cannot be said of Fitz.
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                          • BillsFanCupp38
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                            • Mar 2004
                            • 1049

                            #14
                            Re: Fitz's Career Completion Percentage Vs. Other QBs

                            Lets not sugar coat this. Fitz sucks. He is a career back up. He will suffice until we can get someone better in the draft or free agency.
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                            • EDS
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                              • Jan 2003
                              • 5216

                              #15
                              Re: Fitz's Career Completion Percentage Vs. Other QBs

                              Originally posted by Philagape
                              Yeah it really is, because the good they do outweighs the bad. That cannot be said of Fitz.
                              Not to mention 22 picks by Brees goes along with 45 touchdowns. Not so much for Fitz.

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