Ducks GM puts ‘for sale’ signs on everyone but Selanne, Koivu

[SkateZilla]

Re: Ducks GM puts ‘for sale’ signs on everyone but Selanne, Koivu

I believe this. Darcy won't pull the trigger on a deal unless he is totally raping a team. Teams are probably done with dealing with him.

7 out of 10 times he's raping our own team.

[DMBcrew36]

Re: Ducks GM puts ‘for sale’ signs on everyone but Selanne, Koivu

I'd rather have Perry than anyone -- he has more grit.

[Mski]

Re: Ducks GM puts ‘for sale’ signs on everyone but Selanne, Koivu

Getzlaf would probably require one of Myers or Vanek and more.... Don't want to ship Myers, and trading Vanek kind of defeats the purpose of getting Getzlaf.

I would do a trade with Roy+Ennis+picks/prospects in a second for him.

i think the three untouchables are vanek meyers and mcnabb

trade miller, roy, and stafford, tropp... for hiller getzlaf and ryan

[SkateZilla]

Re: Ducks GM puts ‘for sale’ signs on everyone but Selanne, Koivu

we are already a one line team anyway, so.

Send them everyone, and just play Vanek-Ryan-PominVille all game every game :p

[TheGhostofJimKelly]

Re: Ducks GM puts ‘for sale’ signs on everyone but Selanne, Koivu

For Mike Richards, the cost was a top prospect, an up and coming player, and a draft pick. For Jeff Carter it was the 8th pick in the draft and a good/average player.

[Mski]

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im pretty sure Anahiem doesnt want picks, they would likely want ready to play guys, and seeing as we're close to the salary cap, any move we make would have to be at minium at par on salaries... if not having to get anahiem to eat some of ours

[OpIv37]

Re: Ducks GM puts ‘for sale’ signs on everyone but Selanne, Koivu

We have a lot of ready to play guys that should be traded- the problem is that no one else wants our ****ing trash.

[Crisis]

Re: Ducks GM puts ‘for sale’ signs on everyone but Selanne, Koivu

i think the three untouchables are vanek meyers and mcnabb

trade miller, roy, and stafford, tropp... for hiller getzlaf and ryan

the value in that deal is not even close.

[Skooby]

Re: Ducks GM puts ‘for sale’ signs on everyone but Selanne, Koivu

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Source-Derek-Roy-Key-in-Anaheim-Blockbuster/1/41147

hmm...

[OpIv37]

Re: Ducks GM puts ‘for sale’ signs on everyone but Selanne, Koivu

The first obvious turning point in this season was when Miller got hit.

Does anyone else see this as a 2nd turning point?

An opportunity was there to make a deal. The Sabres did nothing. They are 1-4-1 since this story broke. Deciding to go with the status quo sunk whatever little chance there was to salvage the season.

I'd love to know if Darcy even had a conversation with the Ducks, and if he did, what was said.

[trapezeus]

Re: Ducks GM puts ‘for sale’ signs on everyone but Selanne, Koivu

i'd rather have it this way to be honest, OP.

I don't want the sabres moving talented and promising picks for people who could be rentals or players that are going to just push us to the 8th spot. this season is a wash now. Might as well move the broken pieces at firesale prices and get a shot at a top prospect in a top 5 pick. Then couple it with guys who want to work and don't have to deal with the entitled babies on this team.

If this team had heart and just needed a player to have chemistry with, then yeah, they missed their opportunity. but this team is really far behind where they think it is.

[OpIv37]

Re: Ducks GM puts ‘for sale’ signs on everyone but Selanne, Koivu

i'd rather have it this way to be honest, OP.

I don't want the sabres moving talented and promising picks for people who could be rentals or players that are going to just push us to the 8th spot. this season is a wash now. Might as well move the broken pieces at firesale prices and get a shot at a top prospect in a top 5 pick. Then couple it with guys who want to work and don't have to deal with the entitled babies on this team.

If this team had heart and just needed a player to have chemistry with, then yeah, they missed their opportunity. but this team is really far behind where they think it is.

The Ducks were talking player for player though. Imagine if we could have moved Stafford and/or Roy and added some guys from Anaheim in a move that was relatively cap-neutral. Best case scenario: the change of scenery and the addition of the players helps and we get to make a run at it. Worst-case scenario: the new guys are just like the old guys and we're in the same situation, only with players that Darcy isn't married to.

[trapezeus]

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yeah, but there were talks that the ducks were looking for myers or prospects that we don't know enough about.

I don't trust darcy, but i can't imagine they were like, "we want roy and here is getzlaf." i trust that any of the names we'd want, would have a piece or two that would make us nervous to miss out on.

knowing what we know as of today, i'd rather just give away stafford and roy for a pick and a prospect we know nothing about than having them in packages where a mcnabb or kassian is sent out.

Kassian, in the little i've seen, is the man. ruff is slowly killing his style of play. i would hate to lose kassian. whether he amounts to nothing in buffalo with ruff is better than watching him blossom into a skilled bertuzzi type player.