Breaking news: Obama's Birth Certificate is a Fraud

[MidnightVoice]

And don't forget, not guilty is not the same as innocent.

You have an Scottish blood?

Under Scots law, a criminal trial may end in one of three verdicts: one of conviction ("guilty") and two of acquittal ("not proven" and "not guilty")....... the "not proven" verdict is an acquittal used when the judge or jury does not have enough evidence to convict but is not sufficiently convinced of the defendant's innocence to bring in a "not guilty" verdict. ..... In popular parlance, this verdict is sometimes jokingly referred to as "not guilty and don't do it again".

[YardRat]

Do you think YardRat could be a pedophile?

I'm not basing anything on falsehood- I'm simply asking a question, and according to you, I can keep asking it until it is answered.

The right to question the government and government decisions is not carte blanche to lob ridiculous accusations out of left field at whomever one wants.

You're asking for an opinion, not verification of fact. Big difference. You can see that, correct?

You can also see that if the question is reworded as an accusation or made as a statement of fact then proven a falsehood that there are consequences for whoever posed the statement, right?

[OpIv37]

You're asking for an opinion, not verification of fact. Big difference. You can see that, correct?

You can also see that if the question is reworded as an accusation or made as a statement of fact then proven a falsehood that there are consequences for whoever posed the statement, right?

Really? What consequences?

This birther crap has been proven false years ago, yet people continue to say it without any consequences.

[YardRat]

Really? What consequences?

This birther crap has been proven false years ago, yet people continue to say it without any consequences.

Accusing somebody of not being a citizen is a little bit different accusing somebody of a major crime, so the consequences are different. Quit using a dumbass hyperbolic analogy, it's ignorant.

Bush II has been 'accused' of being directly responsible for 2752 American deaths on domestic soil, and still is.
Clinton has been 'accused' of being an adulterer, fraud, graft and even accessory to murder.
Bush I - secret societies, New World Order, etc.
Kennedy - a womanizer in the White House.

Etc, etc, etc. Hell, you can point to just about any presidency and find some example. Can't be any good reasons for any of those questions to have been asked or continue to be asked, except for them being black, right?

[DraftBoy]

Accusing somebody of not being a citizen is a little bit different accusing somebody of a major crime, so the consequences are different. Quit using a dumbass hyperbolic analogy, it's ignorant.

Bush II has been 'accused' of being directly responsible for 2752 American deaths on domestic soil, and still is.
Clinton has been 'accused' of being an adulterer, fraud, graft and even accessory to murder.
Bush I - secret societies, New World Order, etc.
Kennedy - a womanizer in the White House.

Etc, etc, etc. Hell, you can point to just about any presidency and find some example. Can't be any good reasons for any of those questions to have been asked or continue to be asked, except for them being black, right?

I think you're being extremely liberal with the actual definition of "accused".

For instance there isn't an accusation Clinton was an adulterer because we know he was.

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[OpIv37]

Accusing somebody of not being a citizen is a little bit different accusing somebody of a major crime, so the consequences are different. Quit using a dumbass hyperbolic analogy, it's ignorant.

Bush II has been 'accused' of being directly responsible for 2752 American deaths on domestic soil, and still is.
Clinton has been 'accused' of being an adulterer, fraud, graft and even accessory to murder.
Bush I - secret societies, New World Order, etc.
Kennedy - a womanizer in the White House.

Etc, etc, etc. Hell, you can point to just about any presidency and find some example. Can't be any good reasons for any of those questions to have been asked or continue to be asked, except for them being black, right?

Two things: First, no one has ever proven any of those charges to be false to the degree Obama has. And second, the reason for all of those accusations is hatred of the particular president in question. Obama's race just adds another reason for some people to hate him.

[YardRat]

I think you're being extremely liberal with the actual definition of "accused".

For instance there isn't an accusation Clinton was an adulterer because we know he was.

So you knew Clinton was an adulterer before he was accused of being one? I don't think so.

[YardRat]

Two things: First, no one has ever proven any of those charges to be false to the degree Obama has. And second, the reason for all of those accusations is hatred of the particular president in question.

Some of them are true. Some of them aren't. That's not the point. The point is, past presidents have had accusations charged against them also.

Obama's race just adds another reason for some people to hate him.

Granted. But it's not the only reason, and thus the only valid reason for the birthers, as others have suggested in this thread.