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  • OpIv37
    Acid Douching Asswipe
    • Sep 2002
    • 101255

    A few post-game comments

    First of all, I've only watched the first half so far. I know their backups/future cuts lit up ours in the 2nd half, but I'm not overly concerned about that.

    -Other team's "vanilla" offenses that "don't game plan" seem to have little trouble moving the ball against our starting D. I saw a lot of Kelsay and Edwards on the drive where they scored the FG, so I won't count that against the starting D, but the starters were in for the majority of the TD drive and they were all in on the TD play I believe. Basically, the starting D has given up TD's in 2 of 5 drives so far, both against inexperienced QB's.

    -The DL was decent, registering a couple of sacks, and I like the safeties (watch out for 36 Howell), but the LB's and the CB's on this team leave a lot to be desired. McKelvin forced a fumble, but only because he got beat on a simple cut to the inside that allowed the WR to get to the ball. Aaron Williams was beat deep but was only saved by the receiver being a half step out of bounds when he caught the ball.

    -It was nice to see the 1st team offense score, but 3 of the Vikings' starters on the DL were out of the game for the entire TD drive (The Williams brothers and Jared Allen). Fitz was under literally NO pressure on the TD play. Once again, it's better to see them score than struggle as bad as they did last week, but the situation did seem somewhat artificial.

    -I know it's preseason and the team isn't going to show their playbook, but the offense was EXTREMELY predictable. If Chandler lined up on the LOS, it was a pass. If he was behind the LOS, it was a run. Every single time. I'm trying not to read too much into it since it is preseason, but it did invoke nightmares of some of the horrifically predictable offenses we had under Jauron.
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  • DraftBoy
    Administrator
    • Jul 2002
    • 107452

    #2
    Re: A few post-game comments

    I noted that our DB's do a horrendous job getting off blocks v. screen passes.
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    • Mindbender
      Registered User
      • Apr 2010
      • 1024

      #3
      Re: A few post-game comments

      I'm not an xs and os guys by any means...how vanilla was the Vikings offense? Seemed more complicated than ours.
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      • DraftBoy
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        • Jul 2002
        • 107452

        #4
        Re: A few post-game comments

        Originally posted by Mindbender View Post
        I'm not an xs and os guys by any means...how vanilla was the Vikings offense? Seemed more complicated than ours.
        Not much play-action or double moves in the routes. Most of it was short under neath stuff with some screens that I saw. I didnt pay a ton of attention to it though since I was grading our OT's instead.

        Their OL looked like crap v. Williams and Dareus though.
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        • OpIv37
          Acid Douching Asswipe
          • Sep 2002
          • 101255

          #5
          Re: A few post-game comments

          Originally posted by Mindbender View Post
          I'm not an xs and os guys by any means...how vanilla was the Vikings offense? Seemed more complicated than ours.
          That's a good question.... I'd have to go back and watch again. I was concentrating on who was on the field for our D and how they were playing so I wasn't really paying attention to their complexity.
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          • chernobylwraiths
            Registered User
            • Jan 2003
            • 41838

            #6
            Re: A few post-game comments

            I'm a little worried about our linebackers, they have to cover the underneath stuff and be the ones picking up on delayed draws and running plays.

            Not as much worried about the offense short of hoping the Oline can come together and be healthy by the opener.

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            • Johnny Bugmenot
              Will not tolerate vandalism.
              • Apr 2006
              • 4311

              #7
              Re: A few post-game comments

              The linebackers stunk. As did the wide receivers, who couldn't get open if their lives depended on it.

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              • MitchMurrayDowntown
                Skoobasaurus-Rex
                • Oct 2011
                • 22284

                #8
                Re: A few post-game comments

                Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                That's a good question.... I'd have to go back and watch again. I was concentrating on who was on the field for our D and how they were playing so I wasn't really paying attention to their complexity.
                Vikings game-planned for broke, they're were just 3-13 so they sorta have to show some go. I still don't like showing up to fail but it's Pre-season & no one got hurt.

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                • DraftBoy
                  Administrator
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 107452

                  #9
                  Re: A few post-game comments

                  Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
                  Vikings game-planned for broke, they're were just 3-13 so they sorta have to show some go. I still don't like showing up to fail but it's Pre-season & no one got hurt.
                  Huh?
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                  Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                  We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                  • cookie G
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 7566

                    #10
                    Re: A few post-game comments

                    Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
                    I noted that our DB's do a horrendous job getting off blocks v. screen passes.
                    The Bryan Scott experiment at LB wasn't going too well. On the screen to Harvin, he took a really bad angle and Harvin blew by him. It was worthy of Donte Whitner. What should have been a 5 yard gain turned out to be a 30 yard gain. On another play, a long run by TG, Scott ran around an OL, creating a huge hole which TG walked through.

                    There was a lot of one or two guys failing to do his job and causing the big play.

                    If Williams turns the right way, the 35 yard completion is knocked away.
                    If Byrd doesn't try to submarine Simpson, its a 6 yard gain;
                    If Scott takes the right angle, Harvin doesn't have a 30 yard screen pass.
                    If Scott fills a hole, it is a 3-4 yard gain.

                    They really weren't getting outplayed, or run over, but the little things were crushing them.

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                    • Ingtar33
                      Dances With Buffaloes
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 15469

                      #11
                      Re: A few post-game comments

                      Originally posted by chernobylwraiths View Post
                      I'm a little worried about our linebackers, they have to cover the underneath stuff and be the ones picking up on delayed draws and running plays
                      post of the thread right here. I saw the same problem with the LBers. They're scaring me right now.
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                      • DraftBoy
                        Administrator
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 107452

                        #12
                        Re: A few post-game comments

                        Originally posted by Ingtar33 View Post
                        post of the thread right here. I saw the same problem with the LBers. They're scaring me right now.
                        Good to see you posting again.
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                        Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                        We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                        • Ingtar33
                          Dances With Buffaloes
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 15469

                          #13
                          Re: A few post-game comments

                          Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
                          Good to see you posting again.
                          thanks

                          It's crazy how fast time flew this past year.
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                          MY WIFE SAID THAT!!!

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                          • Night Train
                            Retired - On Several Levels
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 33117

                            #14
                            Re: A few post-game comments

                            Minny ran a lot of 2-3 step drops, getting the ball out fast on quick slants. Like many here, I saw 2 things.

                            1. LB's acted completely surprised they had to cover the middle that was wide open. Reacted poorly.
                            2. Safties were way too deep despite Minny continually showing the quick slants and were slow to adjust.

                            Wanny needs to line them up better. Teams will try to nullify our outside rush with quick hitters and he needs to move his players around quicker.
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                            • DraftBoy
                              Administrator
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 107452

                              #15
                              Re: A few post-game comments

                              Originally posted by Night Train View Post
                              Minny ran a lot of 2-3 step drops, getting the ball out fast on quick slants. Like many here, I saw 2 things.

                              1. LB's acted completely surprised they had to cover the middle that was wide open. Reacted poorly.
                              2. Safties were way too deep despite Minny continually showing the quick slants and were slow to adjust.

                              Wanny needs to line them up better. Teams will try to nullify our outside rush with quick hitters and he needs to move his players around quicker.
                              The deep safeties is something you're going to see all year long. Wanny's defensive scheme calls for the safeties to play deep as he would rather give up the underneath stuff than a deep ball.

                              He's very much a classic Cover 2 guy with some variations.
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                              Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                              We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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