Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

[mysticsoto]

I don't know how anyone can look at our defense and not place a good portion of the blame on Wannstadt. This defense definitely underachieved, and for all trying to blame Mario...what about everyone else? The entire defense did not play and become as dominating as expected. They did improve as the season went on but it still was a monumental failure by the coaching staff!

[YardRat]

The NFL hasn't quite yet reached the stage of Arena league.

Sooner or later, your D has to stop someone.

Against the Jets- With Mark Sanchez, the Jets scored on 5 of their 1st 6 possessions. Only one poss. was started in Buffalo territory;

Against the Pats- 14 of their last 19 possessions resulted in scores, including 11 TDS;

Against the 9er's- they gave up TD's in 6 of their last 7 possessions. Only 1 of those possessions started in Buffalo territory;

Against the Titans- the gave up TD's in 4 of their 1st 5 possessions. Only one started in Buffalo territory. With 3 minutes to go, all they had to do was prevent a TD. They couldn't do that;

Against Seattle- they gave up scores on 5 of their 1st 5 possessions, including 4 TDS. After a punt at the end of the half,
they gave up 3 more scores on consecutive drives. Against the Seahawks, there hadn't been an offensive turnover in the entire 1st half, yet they were down 31-17.

Of course defense is the problem.

If they were intending on winning shoot outs, they probably should have added more than 1 weapon and 1 OL to their arsenal.

But they didn't, because they wanted a dominant defense.

And what they got is about as far as can be from dominating.

**** like that is going to happen when you hire a guy that has been a DC exactly 1 season out of the previous 19 to run your defense, and in reality wasn't exactly stellar at it prior to that.

[pmoon6]

I nominate Kyle Williams to take over that role. It might be a blow to his ego, considering KW was a 5th round pick that year, as opposed to the no. 1 pick in the draft, but se la vie. They have a lot invested in the guy and you might as well see what you can get out of him.



It improved against bad teams. Kelsay could get the 3 sack performance against the bad teams too on occasion. I think he got 3 against Denver last year, for instance. So he gets 2 or 3 more sacks per year than Kelsay...I ain't impressed.



Maybe that's a clue that the garbage sack isn't all there is to playing defense. And therein lies the problem. The guy gets a garbage sack and people ooh and ahh, like that makes him some great DE or something.




Well, yeah, their O's were at the bottom of the league. Reality set back in as soon as Seattle showed up.



Of the top 9 defenses, in terms of points allowed, only the Fins aren't going to the playoffs. (not sure of the Bears).
Of the bottom 9 defenses, in terms of points allowed, only NO is going (are they? not sure).

Bills, Chiefs, Eagles, Raiders and Titans may be looking for new coaches, as may the Jags, Bucs and Lions.




Assuming you're right for a second, it should make me feel good that the Bills' spent 3 years building a Maginot Line? (You can thank me for that later, I know you liked it).



Thank you. I will.



The NFL hasn't quite yet reached the stage of Arena league.

Sooner or later, your D has to stop someone.

Against the Jets- With Mark Sanchez, the Jets scored on 5 of their 1st 6 possessions. Only one poss. was started in Buffalo territory;

Against the Pats- 14 of their last 19 possessions resulted in scores, including 11 TDS;

Against the 9er's- they gave up TD's in 6 of their last 7 possessions. Only 1 of those possessions started in Buffalo territory;

Against the Titans- the gave up TD's in 4 of their 1st 5 possessions. Only one started in Buffalo territory. With 3 minutes to go, all they had to do was prevent a TD. They couldn't do that;

Against Seattle- they gave up scores on 5 of their 1st 5 possessions, including 4 TDS. After a punt at the end of the half,
they gave up 3 more scores on consecutive drives. Against the Seahawks, there hadn't been an offensive turnover in the entire 1st half, yet they were down 31-17.

Of course defense is the problem.

If they were intending on winning shoot outs, they probably should have added more than 1 weapon and 1 OL to their arsenal.

But they didn't, because they wanted a dominant defense.

And what they got is about as far as can be from dominating.

I will stop in next year and you can update me on how much the defense sucked. As far as "Arena League yet", you're wrong. I will add WWE. The NFL has become a joke.

[cookie G]

**** like that is going to happen when you hire a guy that has been a DC exactly 1 season out of the previous 19 to run your defense, and in reality wasn't exactly stellar at it prior to that.

**** like that is going to happen when you have a GM that decides to change the defense before he even hires a coach.

Accept it...Mario was his TO move.

And the funny thing is...he could have left the D alone and it would have been better than today.

IF you believe what Moonie says, it's a QB league, driven by scoring.

So...if he had left the defense alone that was 15th in opponents scoring...

Our receiving corps would be...

SJ
Julio Jones or AJ Green
and dual TE's of Jimmy Graham and Gronk.

They'd be thrown to by Dalton/Kaepernick and/or Russell Wilson. they could alternate weeks or something.

People worried about who they were going to double on the D Line?

Who ya gonna double on O?? AJ Green? SJ? Gronk? Graham? Spiller?

But...he couldn't resist...he had to screw up the D.

[cookie G]

I will stop in next year and you can update me on how much the defense sucked. As far as "Arena League yet", you're wrong. I will add WWE. The NFL has become a joke.

At least stop in on those Sundays where Mario gets some meaningless sack and say "HA!!! I TOLD YA SO!"

PS, the venison kabobs I made as a side for Xmas were a hit with our guests. Dances with Wolves was proud.

[Mouldsie]

**** like that is going to happen when you have a GM that decides to change the defense before he even hires a coach.

Accept it...Mario was his TO move.

And the funny thing is...he could have left the D alone and it would have been better than today.

IF you believe what Moonie says, it's a QB league, driven by scoring.

So...if he had left the defense alone that was 15th in opponents scoring...

Our receiving corps would be...

SJ
Julio Jones or AJ Green
and dual TE's of Jimmy Graham and Gronk.

They'd be thrown to by Dalton/Kaepernick and/or Russell Wilson. they could alternate weeks or something.

People worried about who they were going to double on the D Line?

Who ya gonna double on O?? AJ Green? SJ? Gronk? Graham? Spiller?

But...he couldn't resist...he had to screw up the D.

This is fair

[Mouldsie]

A hundo... Ill pay up!

I'll total them up after sunday

[pmoon6]

At least stop in on those Sundays where Mario gets some meaningless sack and say "HA!!! I TOLD YA SO!"

PS, the venison kabobs I made as a side for Xmas were a hit with our guests. Dances with Wolves was proud.

HA!!! I could give a **** less and I never say "I told ya so" even if I am correct. My ego isn't predicated on guessing what may or may not work in the NFL. I always just watched and supported my team.

What did you use for the kababs, inner loin or backstrap?

[coastal]

Jimmy Graham

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[coastal]

Fools Gold unblockable today!

lolz.

[SquishDaFish]

You are such a ****ing clown. I think this might be the last time I respond to you. It was funny responding to you for a while now but now its like Im starting to feel sorry for you. You have something against 1 player on this team and you keep bringing up homo type comments in other threads. I dont know about you anymore

[coastal]

You are such a ****ing clown. I think this might be the last time I respond to you. It was funny responding to you for a while now but now its like Im starting to feel sorry for you. You have something against 1 player on this team and you keep bringing up homo type comments in other threads. I dont know about you anymore

And yet... Here u r... One more time.

tehe.

[coastal]

Ok.. so Mario's had a full year to prove he's 24 karat.. or even 14 karat.

So I put it to you Bills nation...

... Is Mario the real deal or an over-rated, over-paid ticket seller?

[SquishDaFish]

Over paid real deal IMO. And will be even better down the road with a Competent coaching staff and a real QB who can keep the offense on the field.

[coastal]

Over paid real deal IMO. And will be even better down the road with a Competent coaching staff and a real QB who can keep the offense on the field.

What do u base your decision on?

[Mr. Pink]

He's an overpaid, ticket seller that performed at what people should have expected.

Welcome to FA and guys cashing in, they tend to do that.

[Novacane]

Over paid but I don't write the checks so I don't care. He's a very good DE that was better than anything we had. He's not near the top defensive player in the league like his contract says but I'm glad he's here.

[ServoBillieves]

Would've been nice to have Mark Anderson/Chris Kelsay opposite him rather than the scrubs. We'll see in 2013, when he most likely will be injured in the first 3 games.

[X-Era]

Just saw this:

Mario is only 1.5 sacks behind Bruce Smith at the same point in their careers.

Bruce- 78 at this point in his career, Mario- 76.5

[feldspar]

Not THIS thread again...

Mario Williams was named as a second-team All-Pro this year. Pro Bowl too. He does not suck. Who cares how much money he makes?