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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by coastal View Post
    Completely agree.. 8.5 of his sacks came in 3 games. So remove those games and he had 4.5 in 13 games?

    Fool's Gold.
    Good logic.

    I did the same thing with Adrian Peterson's numbers from 2012.

    Get this... did you know that if you take away all his 100+ games, he totally sucked?

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    This thread has sunk even lower.
    Its very simple: Coastal is pot-committed to fools gold, he can't back down. Mario will need 225 sacks and the cure for cancer to get him to reverse his stance. Even then, Mario will be chastised because he's not a rah-rah leader and he signed a contract anyone on the planet would've signed.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    I agree we all need to stop feeding the fn billszone secret Miami fan TROLL and move on. He is such a bonehead anyway

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by GvilleBills View Post
    This thread has sunk even lower.
    Its very simple: Coastal is pot-committed to fools gold, he can't back down. Mario will need 225 sacks and the cure for cancer to get him to reverse his stance. Even then, Mario will be chastised because he's not a rah-rah leader and he signed a contract anyone on the planet would've signed.

    25 pages, smmfh
    It is a low thread, but a starting DE who over 16 games garners 38 total tackles, 28 of them solo, and 13 of them being sacks means that he stopped 15 ball carriers other that a qb on his own, is suspect. The Bills paid a high price for a one-trick pony.
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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMama View Post
    Good logic.

    I did the same thing with Adrian Peterson's numbers from 2012.

    Get this... did you know that if you take away all his 100+ games, he totally sucked?
    That's just dishonest... Adrian Peterson is a future HOF'er. Mario isn't.

    why is that?

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by coastal View Post
    That's just dishonest... Adrian Peterson is a future HOF'er. Mario isn't.

    why is that?
    Nothing about Joe's post was dishonest.

    You trotting out HOF status (like it means anything) is however a dishonest argument.
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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by SquishDaFish View Post
    I agree we all need to stop feeding the fn billszone secret Miami fan TROLL and move on. He is such a bonehead anyway
    Says the bonehead who can't just help himself.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    Nothing about Joe's post was dishonest.

    You trotting out HOF status (like it means anything) is however a dishonest argument.
    How is it dishonest?

    you're talking about a guy in AP that can flirt with the rushing record year after year.

    The hundo million dollar man isn't flirting with anything unless he's packing bling and limp wristed.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by coastal View Post
    How is it dishonest?

    you're talking about a guy in AP that can flirt with the rushing record year after year.

    The hundo million dollar man isn't flirting with anything unless he's packing bling and limp wristed.
    I hear Jason LaCanfora is quiting. There's a job for ya. You can be laughed at by the entire country instead of just in our little corner of cyberspace.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by coastal View Post
    That's just dishonest... Adrian Peterson is a future HOF'er. Mario isn't.

    why is that?
    The whole premise is ridiculous.

    Look at any DE's game logs.

    Sacks tend to occur in chunks.

    You're looking for this perfect distribution of sacks so that a DE gets one every single game, as if that's how it works...

    Robert Mathis had 19.5 sacks, 13 in six games.

    Robert Quinn 19 sacks, 13 in five games.

    Greg Hardy had 15 sacks, 10 in three games.

    Those are the only three guys that had better sack totals than Mario this season. I guess they're all fool's gold too because they didn't abide by coastal's arbitrary laws of sack distribution.

    Put the internet ego aside for 5 seconds and rejoin us in reality.
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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMama View Post
    The whole premise is ridiculous.

    Look at any DE's game logs.

    Sacks tend to occur in chunks.

    You're looking for this perfect distribution of sacks so that a DE gets one every single game, as if that's how it works...

    Robert Mathis had 19.5 sacks, 13 in six games.

    Robert Quinn 19 sacks, 13 in five games.

    Greg Hardy had 15 sacks, 10 in three games.

    Those are the only three guys that had better sack totals than Mario this season. I guess they're all fool's gold too because they didn't abide by coastal's arbitrary laws of sack distribution.

    Put the internet ego aside for 5 seconds and rejoin us in reality.
    Two of those guys have double the games sample size?

    you're not very good at this are you?

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckincincy View Post
    It is a low thread, but a starting DE who over 16 games garners 38 total tackles, 28 of them solo, and 13 of them being sacks means that he stopped 15 ball carriers other that a qb on his own, is suspect. The Bills paid a high price for a one-trick pony.
    While those are good points, it seemed Pettine said "sic balls, Chopper!". Mario's job was to get to the QB, and only 3 guys did it better last year.
    Very interested in his results this year. I think he gets more flack because of that ridiculous contract. That kind of bread, natural reaction is to expect him to lead the league in every category. But that contract is what it is, he just signed it. Signing it won't make him something he's not.

    Like I said, very interested in the coming year.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by coastal View Post
    Two of those guys have double the games sample size?

    you're not very good at this are you?


    With no false modesty, I think I demonstrated that sacks occur in chunks pretty well.

    Everyone's numbers look pedestrian if you take away their big games.

    This schtick of yours isn't as cute as you think it is.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by coastal View Post
    How is it dishonest?

    you're talking about a guy in AP that can flirt with the rushing record year after year.

    The hundo million dollar man isn't flirting with anything unless he's packing bling and limp wristed.
    Yes but that has nothing to do with what Joe commented on, hence the dishonesty of the argument.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMama View Post


    With no false modesty, I think I demonstrated that sacks occur in chunks pretty well.

    Everyone's numbers look pedestrian if you take away their big games.

    This schtick of yours isn't as cute as you think it is.
    Unless, of course, one is talking about Jairus Byrd, then the fact that 75% of his 'stats' were accumulated in 2 games against rookie QB's is irrelevant and he is a 'playmaker' that deserves the money.
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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Ok boys...

    Were on the precipice of year 3 of Super Mario's stay in WNY!

    what's your take?

    Game changer? Worth it? Community icon? Leader?

    Is this finally the year our beloved Bills reach the playoffs and is the highest paid player in this franchise's history the person that's going to help lead us there?

    or was he just brought into sack the quarterback from time to time?

    what say you?

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

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    precipice
    where do you learn words like this??
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    where do you learn words like this??
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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    WOW .. he made 13 SACKS last year??

    He is paid 5.9 MILLION for a total of 23.5 sacks as his career at the BILLS ..

    I see why Buffalo can't clean their city now...

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by coastal View Post
    Ok boys...

    Were on the precipice of year 3 of Super Mario's stay in WNY!

    what's your take?

    Game changer? Worth it? Community icon? Leader?

    Is this finally the year our beloved Bills reach the playoffs and is the highest paid player in this franchise's history the person that's going to help lead us there?

    or was he just brought into sack the quarterback from time to time?

    what say you?
    For nearly $100M we could have done a helluva lot better. Three or four good players.

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