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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by Historian View Post
    I dunno.

    100 million isn't what it used to be.

    Giancarlo Stanton has that in the cracks of his couch.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    There's only one mouth-breather here.... and we all know who it is. Don't bother him when the tide is out or the 49ers are playing.
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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    He's shown up in the last 2 games when it mattered most. He's a great player and I'm glad to have him on this team! Nobody gives a **** if his cap hit is high, he's helped this D become dominant

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by Mouldsie View Post
    He's shown up in the last 2 games when it mattered most. He's a great player and I'm glad to have him on this team! Nobody gives a **** if his cap hit is high, he's helped this D become dominant
    Not only that, but he makes the other lineman better. This D-Line is definitely the best we've ever had, and it's because there are no weak links.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Mario CAN BE a great play, and I wish he would play to that level more often.

    But he certainly doesn't "suck". That goes along with the mindset of todays kids thinking that everything is either great or it sucks.

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    I think people are too focused on his stat sheet and are missing his influence. To say he's shown up in the last two games especially is an insult to the level he's played at all season. Mario has been a beast against the run and pass.
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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Idk, I sorta like seeing a 300 lbs DE chase down Michael Vick from behind.
    Especially when he's in a Bills uni.
    But that's just me I guess.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Mario has had a much larger impact on our defense than the number of sacks he has put up. Many people around here just see bright shiny objects.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Coastal must be working on his second bag of dicks since starting this BS.

    Can we go for 3 years and 100 pages so he gets his fill?

    Something tells me he will never be satiated though.
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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by Historian View Post
    I dunno.

    100 million isn't what it used to be.

    That's actually a really valid point, it just isn't what it used to be. We already have a $100 million LT, I anticipate seeing several more in the next couple of years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Historian View Post
    I dunno.

    100 million isn't what it used to be.

    That's actually a really valid point, it just isn't what it used to be. We already have a $100 million LT, I anticipate seeing several more in the next couple of years.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

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    I think people are too focused on his stat sheet and are missing his influence. To say he's shown up in the last two games especially is an insult to the level he's played at all season. Mario has been a beast against the run and pass.
    He has pedestrian tackle totals for a DE with such playing time - always has - and worse if you subtract sacks. If a runner comes close to his shoulder, he does make a half-hearted effort to tackle him...I give him that. But he's a snap to beat when he's not rushing a quarterback. Williams is an oversized linebacker who gets the big bucks because of the rah-rah for sacks. He doesn't disrupt OL play that I've ever seen, and is rarely in any position to influence the movement of a runner. How many times have you seen him string out a play? Has he ever made a downfield tackle?

    He is an incomplete DE. I suspect HOU let him go because they saw that.
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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckincincy View Post
    He has pedestrian tackle totals for a DE with such playing time - always has - and worse if you subtract sacks. If a runner comes close to his shoulder, he does make a half-hearted effort to tackle him...I give him that. But he's a snap to beat when he's not rushing a quarterback. Williams is an oversized linebacker who gets the big bucks because of the rah-rah for sacks. He doesn't disrupt OL play that I've ever seen, and is rarely in any position to influence the movement of a runner. How many times have you seen him string out a play? Has he ever made a downfield tackle?

    He is an incomplete DE. I suspect HOU let him go because they saw that.
    WTF is wrong with certain people? String out plays? I just watched him run down Michael Vick to the opposite sideline. You missed that play? Not to mention all the times opposing teams put the blocking TE on him (as a second blocker) so Jerry Hughes can perform his magic off the other side. Was it your money they paid to him?

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckincincy View Post
    He has pedestrian tackle totals for a DE with such playing time - always has - and worse if you subtract sacks. If a runner comes close to his shoulder, he does make a half-hearted effort to tackle him...I give him that. But he's a snap to beat when he's not rushing a quarterback. Williams is an oversized linebacker who gets the big bucks because of the rah-rah for sacks. He doesn't disrupt OL play that I've ever seen, and is rarely in any position to influence the movement of a runner. How many times have you seen him string out a play? Has he ever made a downfield tackle?

    He is an incomplete DE. I suspect HOU let him go because they saw that.
    I could give two dumps about his tackle #'s. Again that's stat watching, and not based on what is actually going on in the field. He's forced countless runs this year to either reverse field, cut inside early, or bounce outside against their design. Those never show up in a stat box but are huge impacts on the game. I've seen disrupt the OL play this year constantly. Don't know if you're just not watching him or what.

    I don't care about down field tackles with a DE but to answer your question I think so against Miami he made one on a wide running play.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    People still expect him to be superman because of that contract. I admit I wanted that for a long time too. But the fact is he has carved out a very effective niche at his DE position. His being there, doing what he does, has elevated the play of all the other players on the defense. So in that sense, he was worth the money paid to him.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckincincy View Post
    He has pedestrian tackle totals for a DE with such playing time - always has - and worse if you subtract sacks..
    Classic.

    If you subtract the Home Runs, Babe Ruths RBIs were pedestrian.

    Asinine.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by stuckincincy View Post
    He has pedestrian tackle totals for a DE with such playing time - always has - and worse if you subtract sacks. If a runner comes close to his shoulder, he does make a half-hearted effort to tackle him...I give him that. But he's a snap to beat when he's not rushing a quarterback. Williams is an oversized linebacker who gets the big bucks because of the rah-rah for sacks. He doesn't disrupt OL play that I've ever seen, and is rarely in any position to influence the movement of a runner. How many times have you seen him string out a play? Has he ever made a downfield tackle?

    He is an incomplete DE. I suspect HOU let him go because they saw that.
    You don't even watch the games.

    How would you know if Mario makes an effort or not?

    Or if he is a snap to beat or not?

    The fact is this is pure BS. You don't know what you are talking about.

    Mario is very GOOD setting the edge against the run.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    And Mario embarrasses coastal once again.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    He had one tackle.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    He owned his half of the field. Good second half

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Classic example of why statistics shouldn't be a benchmark of a player's value...another strong outing by Mario.
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