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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by BuffaloWingEater View Post
    wait you were saying mario is fools gold and now he's not broken.....it's the organization. no comprende. pick an argument and stick with it.
    Mario was a decision...

    And it was the wrong decision at the wrong time.. A decision made in a desperate effort to regain the loyalties and attention of a faltering fan base.

    It was a decision that Ralph has duplicated before.

    Mario as a player may or may not be fine... My point is the decision making process that goes into bringing him in when they did, for the amount that they did, for the reasons they did... all wrong!

    Like I said... Fool's Gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmoon6 View Post
    What a ****ing loser. One game and you're already pumping your chest. That's the only reason I logged on, to see you make a fool of yourself. What a juvinile pussy. Did you brag when you slept with the fat girl down the street when you were 16? I know you brag about ****ing your wife.

    What a man.
    Did you watch the Niners game?
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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by FunTimesYaY! View Post
    Generally when you have an alternative, the alternative is a guy who's available the same year to you.

    I, personally, think we overpaid for Mario but that's the nature of FA. Plus we have an obvious need for pass rushers so what else were we gonna do? Sign another situational guy like Anderson and then let Ralph pocket some more money instead?
    Jabaal Sheard was drafted the year before when we took A Williams.

    We created the need for a pass rusher by selecting another high round CB.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by coastal View Post
    Jabaal Sheard was drafted the year before when we took A Williams.

    We created the need for a pass rusher by selecting another high round CB.
    We were also a 3-4 front team when we drafted A Williams...Sheard is a 4-3 DE not a 3-4 DE.

    Completely irrelevant point to say you would have drafted a guy who at the time wouldn't have even fit the scheme.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by FunTimesYaY! View Post
    We were also a 3-4 front team when we drafted A Williams...Sheard is a 4-3 DE not a 3-4 DE.

    Completely irrelevant point to say you would have drafted a guy who at the time wouldn't have even fit the scheme.
    Exactly what scheme do we run other than a ****ty one?

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by coastal View Post
    Exactly what scheme do we run other than a ****ty one?
    When you are a team who usually runs 3-4 looks what purpose does drafting a 4-3 DE serve?

    And how is that a viable alternative at the time it happened?

    Use hindsight all you want but NO team is drafting a 4-3 DE when they run mainly 3-4 looks...EVER.

    So what REALISTIC alternative would you have done instead of Mario...ie someone different to pick up in 2012 than Mario.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by FunTimesYaY! View Post
    When you are a team who usually runs 3-4 looks what purpose does drafting a 4-3 DE serve?

    And how is that a viable alternative at the time it happened?

    Use hindsight all you want but NO team is drafting a 4-3 DE when they run mainly 3-4 looks...EVER.

    So what REALISTIC alternative would you have done instead of Mario...ie someone different to pick up in 2012 than Mario.
    Dude... We had Spencer Johnson and Chris Kelsay playing OLB and played 4 man fronts half the time anyways... so your argument sucks.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by coastal View Post
    Dude... We had Spencer Johnson and Chris Kelsay playing OLB and played 4 man fronts half the time anyways... so your argument sucks.
    Just because we didn't have ideal players for a 3-4 doesn't mean it was smart to bring in more players that didn't fit the scheme, we were transitioning.

    Oh sorry, I forgot how smart you said you were...my bad, nevermind.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
    Just because we didn't have ideal players for a 3-4 doesn't mean it was smart to bring in more players that didn't fit the scheme, we were transitioning.

    Oh sorry, I forgot how smart you said you were...my bad, nevermind.
    A question Inwould love to ask Wanny after today...

    Wanny... You coached Jabaal Sheard in college. Would he ever whine after a game about the refs not calling hands to the face or he would be take it as a green light to dish it out himself?

    Thanks... And I'm going to hang up and listen to your comments.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmifli View Post
    JoeMama's response is the still the best answer. We needed a pass rush. He was the best available. The Bills have to overpay to get anyone because they've been the worst team in the NFL for almost 15 years.

    The NFL is a passing league so good pass rushers are hard to come by.

    I was more excited that they were willing to spend that much money, it signalled that they are at least trying. They're still inept, but at least they're trying.
    I appreciate the bump.

    You're probably the sharpest economic minded guy on the board. I think you and I were on the same page about Mario and why he commanded the contract he did.

    It's like in the business world: In order to lure better talent to an undesirable workplace, a business has to offer more money than its competitors to make it happen. I think it's called a compensating wage differential. Something like that. It doesn't matter.

    I still don't believe Mario is God's gift to defensive ends - and probably never will - but in order to attract talent to an undesirable, losing franchise, you have to overpay to get name players.

    I'm disappointed that the results weren't more instantly gratifying.

    I'd say more but I'm too discouraged about the performance to defend anything or anyone related to the Buffalo Bills tonight.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by coastal View Post
    A question Inwould love to ask Wanny after today...

    Wanny... You coached Jabaal Sheard in college. Would he ever whine after a game about the refs not calling hands to the face or he would be take it as a green light to dish it out himself?

    Thanks... And I'm going to hang up and listen to your comments.
    He'd laugh at you for asking such a dumb question.

    You said you were done about an hour ago, please mean it this time.
    Last edited by Joe Fo Sho; 09-09-2012 at 08:03 PM.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
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    I give a rats ass about the media or "conventional" fanboy wisdom.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by coastal View Post
    I give a rats ass about the media or "conventional" fanboy wisdom.
    Right, you're smart because you said you were.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Invisible. Hey he's got that going for him.
    Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
    Right, you're smart because you said you were.
    What's your cogent point?

    Mario is awesome and rules?

    Cool.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by coastal View Post
    What's your cogent point?

    Mario is awesome and rules?

    Cool.
    When did I say that? You shouldn't put words in other peoples mouth's. Self titled smart people don't do that.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
    When did I say that? You shouldn't put words in other peoples mouth's. Self titled smart people don't do that.
    can u explain to me why Chris Kelsay is still on the team?

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by coastal View Post
    can u explain to me why Chris Kelsay is still on the team?
    Nope. Why do you think I'm qualified to do that?

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
    Nope.
    neither can I... haven't been honestly able to for years.

    Assuming you agree... Don't you think that has something to do with all of this?

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMama View Post
    It's like in the business world: In order to lure better talent to an undesirable workplace, a business has to offer more money than its competitors to make it happen. I think it's called a compensating wage differential. Something like that. It doesn't matter.

    I still don't believe Mario is God's gift to defensive ends - and probably never will - but in order to attract talent to an undesirable, losing franchise, you have to overpay to get name players.
    you mean like Pittsburgh does?

    Oops.

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    Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

    Quote Originally Posted by coastal View Post
    neither can I... haven't been honestly able to for years.

    Assuming you agree... Don't you think that has something to do with all of this?
    All of what? Who is Chris Kelsay taking playing time away from? Who would we have signed that Chris Kelsay's salary is preventing us from signing?

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