Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

[jimmifli]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

He made one play... an awesome play to be sure...

but that was it. Invisible rest of game... Single teamed throughout.

alex Carrington was the player to watch today.

and mind u... This is Jville.... Not NE... Not against Tom Brady... Or Big Ben.

you idiots will never learn.

He had a tipped pass on a third down. A tackle for a four yard loss. He was responsible for getting the Bills D off the field on 4 drives.

Not great competition, but he was an impact player.

[imbondz]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

How many sacks since surgery, and where does he rank statwise in sacks since surgery?

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

How many sacks since surgery, and where does he rank statwise in sacks since surgery?

He's got 6 sacks in 5 games since surgery, which is roughly 2/3rds of his total.

In that span...

Aldon Smith - 12 sacks (jesus..)
JJ Watt - 6 sacks
Von Miller - 9 sacks
Cameron Wake - 3 sacks
John Abraham - 3 sacks
Demarcus Ware - 2.5 sacks
Justin Houston - 4 sacks
Geno Atkins - 2.5 sacks
Clay Matthews - 2 sacks

Those are the top 10 sack leaders so far this year.

[cookie G]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

He had a tipped pass on a third down. A tackle for a four yard loss. He was responsible for getting the Bills D off the field on 4 drives.

Not great competition, but he was an impact player.

Yeah, well, his competition the last 3 weeks has been

Jonathan Martin- a rookie whose draft stock fell when people started watching him;
Winston Justice - the bust from Philly;
Some 2nd year UFDA from Jax;

I'll be impressed when he puts pressure on Brady. (14 scores, including 10 TD's in their last 19 drives against us, damn...).

It isn't even about the $100 million contract with me...its the "oh look at him, he's an athletic freak!!" routine.

The 6'6" 300 lb freak with the agility of a LB, yada, yada, yada.

But apparently his Justice League, Superpower Ring only has enough athletic freak powers for 3 plays a game.


He could be so much more if he wanted to.

Anyways, here's what Talley had to say about him yesterday:

Talley on the Bills' defensive line:

"I thought they would be carried by their front, and they have not been. They paid a whole lot of money for two guys to rush the passer. The guys on the inside, they're holding their own. They're doing everything they can do.

"I asked Bruce [Smith] early in the season. I've said, 'Dude, what do you think me and you would be doing right about now if we were in this boat?' He said, 'We'd be fighting.' "

Asked to elaborate, Talley explained he was unsatisfied with how Mario Williams handled his wrist injury:

"I don't think he's lived up to the hype. Don't tell me about being hurt and playing. I hope his wrist doesn't hurt like mine when he's done. But I just don't get it, man. At the end of the day, you're graded on what you do. If you're good enough to put a uniform on and step on the field, then you're fit to play. So you need to play at your level, whatever that may be.

"I had three surgeries in one offseason and one six days before the season started and still made the Pro Bowl. I played every year through injuries and had surgeries after the offseason.

"There ain't no such thing as being injured. You can be hurt; we all hurt. But you're not injured. We all got to play through it, and your performance can't slack off. I really don't think they hold each other accountable because, at the end of the day, they all go home to their nice, cushy house. What about what you're supposed to be doing on Sunday and Thursday and Monday? What do you think about, and it is just a passing thought?"


On the other hand, he likes Kyle Moore's effort.

"He's played his ass off. I don't think anybody's expected him to play as well as he's played. He's played very, very well. Here's a tweener, a linebacker who's a lot like Cornelius [Bennett] and I were -- between a defensive end and a linebacker. He can rush the passer. He's had, in my opinion, one of the best seasons of anybody on that front."

http://blogs.buffalonews.com/press-coverage/2012/12/nfl-sunday-outtakes-darryl-talley-gives-his-take-on-2012-bills.html

[coastal]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

Lol.

what cookie G and Talley said.

[Mouldsie]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

He's got 6 sacks in 5 games since surgery, which is roughly 2/3rds of his total.

In that span...

Aldon Smith - 12 sacks (jesus..)
JJ Watt - 6 sacks
Von Miller - 9 sacks
Cameron Wake - 3 sacks
John Abraham - 3 sacks
Demarcus Ware - 2.5 sacks
Justin Houston - 4 sacks
Geno Atkins - 2.5 sacks
Clay Matthews - 2 sacks

Those are the top 10 sack leaders so far this year.

Hmm so tied for 3rd

[cookie G]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

Lol.

what cookie G and Talley said.

I don't know why Talley isn't in coaching.

I have a feeling Bruce would have been another Mario Williams if he didn't have Talley around. Talley was the one to kick him in the butt when he needed it.

If nothing else, I'd love for him to take Mario and Kyle Williams in a room and have a chat with them...

"Here's the deal... you have the tools to be elite...not to be paid elite, or fantasy-sack-stat-elite, but actually BE elite...HOF elite. But what you need is someone to kick you in the ass at times. That's where this guy comes in...he's going to be the role I played with Bruce....he'll tell you where to be, he'll tell you when you're slacking off...and you'll need to listen to him".

Something like that.

[coastal]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

I don't know why Talley isn't in coaching.

I have a feeling Bruce would have been another Mario Williams if he didn't have Talley around. Talley was the one to kick him in the butt when he needed it.

If nothing else, I'd love for him to take Mario and Kyle Williams in a room and have a chat with them...

"Here's the deal... you have the tools to be elite...not to be paid elite, or fantasy-sack-stat-elite, but actually BE elite...HOF elite. But what you need is someone to kick you in the ass at times. That's where this guy comes in...he's going to be the role I played with Bruce....he'll tell you where to be, he'll tell you when you're slacking off...and you'll need to listen to him".

Something like that.

Talley was my favorite Bill... My nickname for him was "meat and potatoes" when he was playing.

[cookie G]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

Talley was my favorite Bill... My nickname for him was "meat and potatoes" when he was playing.

Put him on the coaching staff, he'd still be my favorite Bill.

[Don't Panic]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

Talley was my favorite Bill... My nickname for him was "meat and potatoes" when he was playing.

Funny... that's me lady's name for my babymaker.

[The Jokeman]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

Tied for 8th, let's not get too carried away...but yes, I'm pleased with his performance since the surgery. I'm not ecstatic about it, but I'm happy with it.

He's 3rd in sacks among Defensive Ends, depending on your definition of DEs these days.

You're right I was looking at stats by position and Mario ranked higher among DEs but yes the definition is blurred these days. In terms of ecstatic I can't say I'm ready to give Mario a bust in Canton on his play this year but now that he appears healthy the defense on the whole is playing a whole lot better.

[Raptor]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

So Talley is a Doctor now? lmao

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Put him on the coaching staff, he'd still be my favorite Bill.

We already have enough coaches who have no idea what they are doing

[cookie G]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

So Talley is a Doctor now? lmao

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No, he just pretty much knows when a guy has been going through the motions.




We already have enough coaches who have no idea what they are doing

[HAMMER]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

Find me one Texans fan that laments the loss of Fool's Gold.

I win.

Watt made Mario expendable, if he wasn't there there would be plenty of lamenting.

[DraftBoy]

Re: Mario Williams is "Fools Gold"

He does? So he's not a doctor but a mind reader? He's free to state an opinion, but that's all it is. Talley isn't out there at practice, or in the locker room, or even on the field for games. His guesses are more educated sure, but that doesn't mean they are 100% right either.

As for Talley coaching, no thanks. Same goes for Thurman, Kelly, Reed, and Smerlas. Great ambassadors but no interest in them as coaches.