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    Gailey says quarterback isn't a issue, but soon could be

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    Re: Gailey says quarterback isn't a issue, but soon could be

    How can he look at the tape and say that? Typical stubborn idiotic coaching. Fitz is not making plays - plain and simple. And his inability to sustain a drive is wearing on the defense. I mean I know the defense has it's own issues, but the offense isn't doing anything to help them out there.

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    Re: Gailey says quarterback isn't a issue, but soon could be

    We have a QB ??

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    Re: Gailey says quarterback isn't a issue, but soon could be

    Fire him, fire him, fire him!

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    Re: Gailey says quarterback isn't a issue, but soon could be

    I hope that we actually stay with fitz this season


    What if tarvaris Jackson lights it up and prevent a early round qb to be drafted again....

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    Re: Gailey says quarterback isn't a issue, but soon could be

    That's a very misleading headline. It should be "Gailey says 'Quarterback isn't an issue', but it soon could be." They make it sound like Gailey was calling Fitz out publicly.

    That said, all levels deserve blame here. Gailey has hitched his wagon to Ryan Fitzpatrick, but continues to call plays he is unsuited to make. Stop me if you've seen this one before: It's 3rd and short. We come out with 3 WR and a TE, with Jackson or Spiller in the backfield, then the halfback splits all the way out to the sideline and Fitz tries to hit them on a sideline go route. I feel like I've seen that play 5 times this year and it NEVER WORKS. Fitz can't hit the throw, our backs are not wideouts no matter what homers think, and taking them out of the backfield removes the threat of a run conversion.


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    Re: Gailey says quarterback isn't a issue, but soon could be

    The Bills will keep Fitz beyond 2013. But, they might very well draft a QB. Of course I've been saying that for 3 years now too.

    Ponder, Dalton, Luck, Newton... You can win with a young QB but you better be good in other phases. Were not very good in any phase.


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    Re: Gailey says quarterback isn't a issue, but soon could be

    Famous last words:

    “It’s not all my fault, but it starts with me,” Gailey said.

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    Re: Gailey says quarterback isn't a issue, but soon could be

    Actually, what he said was Fitz wasn't the problem. He said don't go there. He hasn't wavered on Fitz at all.

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    Re: Gailey says quarterback isn't a issue, but soon could be

    i just don't get what gailey sees. watching these games, the receivers are open. the reads are right. but the ball is no where to be caught.

    and what's really impressive is that the team gets to duck all questions for a week sinec they stayed out on the west coast.

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    Re: Gailey says quarterback isn't a issue, but soon could be

    He is not going to come out publicly and belittle Fitz. Does no good. Of course he is going to say that. What he says and thinks probably are two different things. Problem is Gailey knows their is no one better on the roster.

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    Re: Gailey says quarterback isn't a issue, but soon could be

    Quote Originally Posted by trapezeus View Post
    i just don't get what gailey sees. watching these games
    He's going to see it from the stands soon.

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    Re: Gailey says quarterback isn't a issue, but soon could be

    Quote Originally Posted by trapezeus View Post
    i just don't get what gailey sees. watching these games, the receivers are open. the reads are right. but the ball is no where to be caught.

    and what's really impressive is that the team gets to duck all questions for a week sinec they stayed out on the west coast.
    I can't believe I'm going to defend Fitz for a sec but in actuality he's fine in the short and intermediate routes running our spread. I'd like to have the long ball available but Gailey needs to just take any play farther than 20 yards out of the playbook. We have success moving the ball when we stick to our shorter game. Fitz gets the ball out quick and finds open guys. I think we should just stick with that and forget the long ball.

    That said, you will not find me arguing with upgrading Fitz. I want better at that position. I think we can win with him if we stick to what he actually can do but I want better talent there overall.

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    Re: Gailey says quarterback isn't a issue, but soon could be

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Era View Post
    I can't believe I'm going to defend Fitz for a sec but in actuality he's fine in the short and intermediate routes running our spread. I'd like to have the long ball available but Gailey needs to just take any play farther than 20 yards out of the playbook. We have success moving the ball when we stick to our shorter game. Fitz gets the ball out quick and finds open guys. I think we should just stick with that and forget the long ball.
    We can't. The result of that is the Jets game: DBs and LBs sitting on short throws all day and picking them off. We need at least the threat of a downfield throw to keep those short ones open.

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    Re: Gailey says quarterback isn't a issue, but soon could be

    Quote Originally Posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
    We can't. The result of that is the Jets game: DBs and LBs sitting on short throws all day and picking them off. We need at least the threat of a downfield throw to keep those short ones open.
    If true, were screwed because Fitz can't hit them. I honestly can't think of one long throw that he's hit... Maybe Graham?

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    Re: Gailey says quarterback isn't a issue, but soon could be

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Era View Post
    If true, were screwed because Fitz can't hit them. I honestly can't think of one long throw that he's hit... Maybe Graham?
    Ummmmm..... You got me.

    BY PASS PLAY CMP ATT YDS CMP% AVG LNG TD INT SACK RAT
    Passs Thrown Behind Line of Scrimmage 22 27 180 81.5 6.67 32 1 0 0 106.8
    Pass Thrown 1-10 yds 29 46 331 63.0 7.20 68 6 1 0 115.1
    Pass Thrown 11-20 yds 17 41 297 41.5 7.24 43 3 4 0 51.6
    Pass Thrown 21-30 yds 3 6 89 50.0 14.83 35 2 0 0 135.4
    Pass Thrown 31-40 yds 1 5 34 20.0 6.80 34 0 2 0 15.8

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    Re: Gailey says quarterback isn't a issue, but soon could be

    Quote Originally Posted by buffalobillsfan95 View Post
    I hope that we actually stay with fitz this season


    What if tarvaris Jackson lights it up and prevent a early round qb to be drafted again....
    Obviously you've never watched Jackson play. That's not going to happen.

    And honestly, I have to wonder if the lack of even a mediocre back-up is one of the reasons Gailey is sticking with Fitz. I think he has so little confidence in Thigpen and Jackson that, as bad as Fitz is, he thinks they'll be even worse.

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    Re: Gailey says quarterback isn't a issue, but soon could be

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Era View Post
    I can't believe I'm going to defend Fitz for a sec but in actuality he's fine in the short and intermediate routes running our spread. I'd like to have the long ball available but Gailey needs to just take any play farther than 20 yards out of the playbook. We have success moving the ball when we stick to our shorter game. Fitz gets the ball out quick and finds open guys. I think we should just stick with that and forget the long ball.

    That said, you will not find me arguing with upgrading Fitz. I want better at that position. I think we can win with him if we stick to what he actually can do but I want better talent there overall.
    Even a QB with an 80% completion percentage isn't going to sustain drives when every pass is 6 yards. 0.8 * 0.8 * 0.8 * 0.8 * 0.8 ... the odds of completing five straight passes is only 32%, and you've only gone 30 yards. And Fitz isn't throwing anywhere near 80%.

    The short passes set up the big plays, like that pass to CJ - spread it out get a LB in coverage and force the safety to cover one of the WR. Then watch CJ blow by the LB 30 yards down the field.

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    Re: Gailey says quarterback isn't a issue, but soon could be

    Fiz can't pass 25 yards, it's a stretch.

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    Re: Gailey says quarterback isn't a issue, but soon could be

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmifli View Post
    Even a QB with an 80% completion percentage isn't going to sustain drives when every pass is 6 yards. 0.8 * 0.8 * 0.8 * 0.8 * 0.8 ... the odds of completing five straight passes is only 32%, and you've only gone 30 yards. And Fitz isn't throwing anywhere near 80%.

    The short passes set up the big plays, like that pass to CJ - spread it out get a LB in coverage and force the safety to cover one of the WR. Then watch CJ blow by the LB 30 yards down the field.
    My only point is that this offense can move the ball and put up points, that's proven. And also that Fitz can't hit the long ball, that's also proven.

    Do I want the limitation of only being able to complete short throws? Absolutely not.

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