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    Re: If I had to draft a QB this year...

    There isn't a QB coming out I dislike as an NFL QB more than Logan Thomas. Please, no.

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    Re: If I had to draft a QB this year...

    I think Logan Thomas has plenty of upside as a QB prospect, but it's going to take a pretty heavy investment of coaching to get him to the point where he's capable of starting. I don't think you could use him as a rookie at all, and it might take longer than that
    I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.

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    Re: If I had to draft a QB this year...

    My ideal draft for the Bills would have Manti Te'o in Round 1 and EJ Manuel in Round 2.

    Did you know Bruce Smith is EJ's Godfather?

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    Re: If I had to draft a QB this year...

    Quote Originally Posted by ICRockets View Post
    My ideal draft for the Bills would have Manti Te'o in Round 1 and EJ Manuel in Round 2.

    Did you know Bruce Smith is EJ's Godfather?
    I did not know that, Manuel was everything we know him to be last night. Inconsistent accuracy, forced some balls, but then stayed calm under pressure and made some good throws for the win. He scares me still.
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    Re: If I had to draft a QB this year...

    Quote Originally Posted by LindellSucks View Post
    There isn't a QB coming out I dislike as an NFL QB more than Logan Thomas. Please, no.
    You gotta keep in mind he's only 2 years removed from being a TE, he's going to take some time. That throw down the seam to Fuller was picture perfect touch, and then the sideline pass to start the last drive was incredible with his gun. Fitz can't make that throw.

    Then you saw the bad Logan rear his head, forced a pass he didn't need to into coverage and it got picked.

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    Re: If I had to draft a QB this year...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mouldsie View Post
    Here's my short list

    1) Geno Smith
    2) Zac Dysert

    I seen Dysert play last week vs the UB Bulls, it was pretty hard to get a really good read on him due to the wind, although his arm was definitely strong enough for WNY winds. I just don't think he's a 1st round pick.

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    Re: If I had to draft a QB this year...

    Dysert would not be a first round pick. Probably a second rounder and maybe third.

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    Re: If I had to draft a QB this year...

    Logan Thomas will submit his name for eval.

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    Re: If I had to draft a QB this year...

    Quote Originally Posted by ICRockets View Post
    My ideal draft for the Bills would have Manti Te'o in Round 1 and EJ Manuel in Round 2.

    Did you know Bruce Smith is EJ's Godfather?
    I knew that about EJ but not big on him at all.
    Inconsistent as can be...
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    Re: If I had to draft a QB this year...

    Man I wish just one of the QB prospects this year were more like Aaron Rodgers or Matt Ryan coming out. I don't need a sure fire stud like Luck; I'd love it but we will never stink bad enough to draft high enough to get that guy. I'd just like a legit guy that you can trust to make plays and not make so many questionable plays that they lose the game for you.

    All these guys just seem to lack the "it" factor. The trust-him-to-win-the-game-for-you factor. They all look way more like career backups than top 10 QB's in the NFL to me.

    I know were going to take the guy we really like this year. I know we will end up drafting one of these guys. But man, I just can't get very excited about any of them.


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    Re: If I had to draft a QB this year...

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Era View Post
    Man I wish just one of the QB prospects this year were more like Aaron Rodgers or Matt Ryan coming out. I don't need a sure fire stud like Luck; I'd love it but we will never stink bad enough to draft high enough to get that guy. I'd just like a legit guy that you can trust to make plays and not make so many questionable plays that they lose the game for you.

    All these guys just seem to lack the "it" factor. The trust-him-to-win-the-game-for-you factor. They all look way more like career backups than top 10 QB's in the NFL to me.

    I know were going to take the guy we really like this year. I know we will end up drafting one of these guys. But man, I just can't get very excited about any of them.
    I think there are a few who are, I think the market is balancing out some and deflating some stock that we would normally see as very high. We have three legit first round QB's and 3-4 legit 2nd Rounders, that's a strong class.

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    Re: If I had to draft a QB this year...

    Quote Originally Posted by tampabay25690 View Post
    I knew that about EJ but not big on him at all.
    Inconsistent as can be...
    I think many still way overrate mobility. Smith is better than Manuel and both have a similar style. But, even Smith makes bad decisions on where to throw.

    I'm leaning toward preferring a guy who has better decision making, pocket presence, accuracy, and arm strength at the expense of mobility.

    Guys like Jones, Wilson, and Glennon seem to be a bit more like that then Smith and Manuel. But none of them stands out as having great decision making to me and all are pretty mediocre overall.

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    Re: If I had to draft a QB this year...

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    I think there are a few who are, I think the market is balancing out some and deflating some stock that we would normally see as very high. We have three legit first round QB's and 3-4 legit 2nd Rounders, that's a strong class.
    I guess many, including me, would like to see a draft with more sure fire guys rather than a lot of possible legit starters.

    I keep thinking it's more like a bunch of Dalton and Ponders without the Newton.

    I can see Barkley and Smith as 1st rounders but who's the 3rd?
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    Re: If I had to draft a QB this year...

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Era View Post
    I guess many, including me, would like to see a draft with more sure fire guys rather than a lot of possible legit starters.

    I keep thinking it's more like a bunch of Dalton and Ponders without the Newton.

    I can see Barkley and Smith as 1st rounders but who's the 3rd?
    Wilson will go Round 1, no doubt.

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    Re: If I had to draft a QB this year...

    No way on Jones...falls apart in pocket... Nassib over Dysert....Glennon over both....

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    Re: If I had to draft a QB this year...

    No one talks about mike glennon he is not bad no first rounder but maybe a second rounder.

    He throws down the field is accurate over the middle.

    Only thing that we can not see from tv is does he throw goes open and anticipate them being open. That was Nix's big criteria.

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    Re: If I had to draft a QB this year...

    I like Nassib not for us in rd 1 but 2 or 3..has smarts and toughness.. good arm some mobilty..
    Logan Thomas-Love his upside..rd 2 or 3..
    Tyler Bray- Love his size and arm..
    Barkley-Exp and accuracy...
    Murray UGA-IF HE COMES OUT.. see above..


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    Geno Smith-falls apart in games..once it goes bad..
    Landry Jones-lacks toughness

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    Re: If I had to draft a QB this year...

    I like Boyd the best of the eligible QBs, though it's not clear if he comes out.

    Smith will likely be taken by either KC or JAX, so he's of no interest to me.

    Bray is the guy I like next. Sure he's inconsistent, but so is just about everyone in this draft. At least he has the ability to put up 450 and 4 TDs every once in a while. I don't see that from any of the other guys.

    Don't like Glennon. Strong arm and not much else. Very much like Weeden to me.

    Manuel is very inconsistent, echoing above, and doesn't really have any great tools to make up for it IMO.

    Landry Jones is terrible and everyone knows it. Even he knows it.

    Wittek did Barkley a big favor by stinking up the joint in the Sun Bowl. A lot of perception that Barkley's success was all the guys around him.

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    Re: If I had to draft a QB this year...

    Down on Smith. Same on Dysert. Nassib also in the mix with Dysert range. Tyler Wilson is probably my favorite QB so far. This class is interesting. Could go in any order and I could see them all failing TBH

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    Re: If I had to draft a QB this year...

    Wilson really turned me off throwing his team under the bus after a game he didn't even play in. He really didn't perform that well when he was in anyway.

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