New stadium for the Bills in the future?

[OpIv37]

Why would it never be open? It would certainly be open for most games in the fall. And if there's a late season game where it's cold and not a blizzard, who says they can't use the weather to their advantage?

They won't open it if it's even the least bit cold. Fall games, yes, but how many is that? 2 or 3 games a year? 4 tops? It's not worth the cost to have it open for half the games or less.

[gebobs]

They won't open it if it's even the least bit cold.

I read what you said. What is your source on this? Or is it just your opinion?

Fall games, yes, but how many is that? 2 or 3 games a year? 4 tops? It's not worth the cost to have it open for half the games or less.

Huh? The Bills average 5 games each year before December. And in case you hadn't noticed, winters are getting milder.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Either go cheap with an open air field or go with a full-time dome, but I honestly don't see the point of a retractable dome. They're never going to open it in inclement weather because then they would need to add all of the other junk that goes with it (drainage, heated field) and that adds to the expense.

[gebobs]

Either go cheap with an open air field or go with a full-time dome, but I honestly don't see the point of a retractable dome. They're never going to open it in inclement weather because then they would need to add all of the other junk that goes with it (drainage, heated field) and that adds to the expense.

If that's the case, screw the dome. Keep it open.

Some people want a dome so it would attract a Super Bowl. Buffalo can barely handle an NHL All-Star game. A Super Bowl attracts more than just attendees. Visitors would have to get hotel rooms in Toronto, Rochester and Niagara Falls.

[RedEyE]

Stolen from BBMB:

Wow! Traffic in and out of there will be a nightmare.

[Ed]

I've never liked the idea of indoor games for the Bills, but I think it's a reality that fans need to accept if they want the Bills to remain in Buffalo. There could be a few advantages though.

I think it would be easier to sell December tickets if people don't have to deal with the weather. I know there are the hardcore fans that like the experience of the harsh elements, but they don't sell out games. More people would prefer not to be cold and miserable when they go watch a game and it's not like a roof is going to keep the hardcore fans away.

It could also help make the Bills a little more appealing to free agents since most players aren't from places that have harsh weather.

The stadium would also probably be a lot louder, which could have a bigger impact on opponents than weather.

[DraftBoy]

I think you missed the point: if they're never going to open it, then it doesn't have to be retractable. It's a waste of money.

And no, the tailgating thing is not ridiculous. It's part of the Bills experience and it's what keeps Bills fans coming when the team sucks, particularly late in the year. If the team can get 10+ wins a season, you're right, the tailgating won't matter. But they can't. Take away the tailgating, and you'll be lucky to get 20k to show up for those meaningless December games.

No my point re: roof is about more than just football. You can have an open roof for summer concerts and other events. Don't get me wrong Im ok with a full dome, I just hate the idea of building an open air stadium up there.

We may be lucky to get 20K this December with all the tailgating glory. Tailgating doesn't make or break attendance. But that points looks pointless now assuming the BBMB schematic is legit.

RedEye is right though, traffic would be an absolute nightmare.

[Ed]

Wow! Traffic in and out of there will be a nightmare.

Have you ever been to a stadium where traffic wasn't an issue?

[OpIv37]

I read what you said. What is your source on this? Or is it just your opinion?


Huh? The Bills average 5 games each year before December. And in case you hadn't noticed, winters are getting milder.

People in Buffalo often forget how poor the rest of the country's tolerance for bad weather is. The stadium will not operate under Buffalo weather rules. It will operate under the rules that will get the most asses in the seats- i.e.- if it's even the least bit uncomfortable outside, they will make it comfortable inside.

And I don't have a source- it's just my opinion. But it's all about money, and no matter what they say ahead of time, it won't work that way if it's built.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Have you ever been to a stadium where traffic wasn't an issue?

Traffic is always going to be an issue whenever 75k+ are all heading to the same spot at the same time, but most other stadiums at least let you get out in multiple directions.

[OpIv37]

Traffic is always going to be an issue whenever 75k+ are all heading to the same spot at the same time, but most other stadiums at least let you get out in multiple directions.

Obviously you've never been to FedEx field....

[RedEyE]

Traffic is always going to be an issue whenever 75k+ are all heading to the same spot at the same time, but most other stadiums at least let you get out in multiple directions.

This^

[jdaltroy5]

They're going to have to get A LOT better if they expect to fill that thing and get their money back.

My Dad has season tickets on the 20 yard line 4 rows up and he pays less than $100 per game. There's no way in Hell we'd be making the 5 hour round trip trek in December to pay over $200 to watch them get their asses kicked.

ESPECIALLY if I wasn't allowed to get loaded first.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Obviously you've never been to FedEx field....

"Most"

[mrbojanglezs]

http://itmpodcasttrack.com/podcast_t...n2/3711751.mp3

Russ puts an end to this. Also makes sarcastic remarks towards Buffalo. Can't stand this clown he has also ripped fans in the past for not attending Decemeber games

[DMBcrew36]

If that's the case, screw the dome. Keep it open.

Some people want a dome so it would attract a Super Bowl. Buffalo can barely handle an NHL All-Star game. A Super Bowl attracts more than just attendees. Visitors would have to get hotel rooms in Toronto, Rochester and Niagara Falls.

Dome and keep it closed.

Besides the Bills being terrible, why do you think the November/December games don't sell out? Normal people don't enjoy freezing their asses off (and even less so when your team is horrible).

[Mouldsie]

A giant parking lot on the already ****ty looking waterfront?

SIGN ME UP!

[X-Era]

Plus, there are a lot of private lots on people's yards and small businesses around the Ralph. And it looks like the stadium itself is larger, to accommodate the convention center space. I'd say a conservative estimate is a loss of 50 acres of tailgating space.

That will KILL this team, as the tailgating is what has kept people going to the games even when the team blows (which has been constant).

That being said, we probably already gave this issue more time than it's worth. The article said they haven't reached out to the team and they haven't sought political backing yet, so right now, there is about as much reality to this as me saying I'm going to buy the Bills and appoint myself GM, DraftBoy director of scouting and Coach Sal as head coach.

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I disagree that it HAS to be retractable. A retractable dome in Buffalo is a dome. They'll have it open 3 games a year, tops, Not worth the money. And I don't think PSL's and limited tailgating will help keep the team in Buffalo. I think they'll help drive the team out, because the games will become too expensive and people will stop going to the games to tailgate even when the team sucks.

Really? I can't have a role?

[Generalissimus Gibby]

This will not be built until Ralph dies or sells the team.

[OpIv37]

Really? I can't have a role?

You can be the midget trainer.