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    Re: Hurricane Sandy caused by AGW!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by FunTimesYaY! View Post
    Global warming is a scare tactic to try and push political agenda.

    The Earth goes in warming and cooling cycles.
    The earth does have cycles in which it cools and then warms up again, and it has been doing so for millions of years. And it will continue to do so. That's not to say that human activity can have an effect too. It may be that both are going on at the same time at present, and it's nearly impossible to quantify exactly which is the more significant contributor, or even if both are pushing in the same direction. But the difficulty of pinning things down completely does not mean we're innocent of doing damage.
    I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.

    A wise man doesn't waste effort telling the world he's wise. If it's true, it will be self-evident.

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    Re: Hurricane Sandy caused by AGW!!!!!

    the weather channel was saying hybrid storms like sandy could become more frequent. and sandy, as a hurricane was weak. they think another huge hybrid storm could hit new york city again soonish, and be MUCH worse.

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    Re: Hurricane Sandy caused by AGW!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by mysticsoto View Post
    I've posted this before, but like anything that doesn't agree with skeptics...they ignore it and keep spouting the same lies and misconceptions repeatedly...




    Or...if skeptics weren't so intellectually lazy on this topic, they could just read about it just about anywhere including wikipedia instead of continually spreading falsehoods: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Warm_Period
    So, mystic....why do the charts use only a thirty year period as a benchmark, and why specifically 1961-1990?

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    Re: Hurricane Sandy caused by AGW!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    So, mystic....why do the charts use only a thirty year period as a benchmark, and why specifically 1961-1990?
    Um...cuz they don't? This ****e is as settled as evolution. Want to take some pot shots at that?
    Gailey's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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    Re: Hurricane Sandy caused by AGW!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Discotrish View Post
    You can explain to us why it was warmer in the Middle Ages.
    Can you explain to me why you distrust climate scientists? All your objections have been answered over and over again. But you willfully remain ignorant.

    Patti...you know what? I don't trust that you are a woman. I think you're a poseur. What is it? Patti or Trish? Or is it Patrick or Sunish?

    Hah...you might be a female impersonating Muslim!
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    Re: Hurricane Sandy caused by AGW!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    So, mystic....why do the charts use only a thirty year period as a benchmark, and why specifically 1961-1990?
    What does that have to do with showing the realities of regionalized medieval warming?

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    Re: Hurricane Sandy caused by AGW!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by gebobs View Post
    Um...cuz they don't? This ****e is as settled as evolution. Want to take some pot shots at that?
    Yes, they do...did you look at the charts?

    Quote Originally Posted by mysticsoto View Post
    What does that have to do with showing the realities of regionalized medieval warming?
    The link you provided to skeptical science re: MWP has the first two charts using '61-'90 average as the benchmark. Several other charts from previous links, and others from different resources (Gore's IT) use it also. Do you know why?

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    Re: Hurricane Sandy caused by AGW!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    Yes, they do...did you look at the charts?
    I think I misunderstood your point. What charts?

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    Re: Hurricane Sandy caused by AGW!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    Yes, they do...did you look at the charts?

    The link you provided to skeptical science re: MWP has the first two charts using '61-'90 average as the benchmark. Several other charts from previous links, and others from different resources (Gore's IT) use it also. Do you know why?
    Probably just to show how it compares to more contemporary numbers. The point still stands that this idea that skeptics have about what the medieval warming was really about is wrong - like most of their information regarding climate science.

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    Re: Hurricane Sandy caused by AGW!!!!!

    To be clear. I do not doubt GW... just AGW

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    Re: Hurricane Sandy caused by AGW!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    To be clear. I do not doubt GW... just AGW
    Sure sure...and this is the whole problem with AGW denialists...no coherent hypothesis. Some think there is no change. Some think it's cooling. Some think it's warming but caused by solar activity. I bet some think it's caused by aliens. And I'm pretty sure ticat and many of the other denialists here have promoted some of the above and more at one time or another.

    On the other hand, aside for some details, the mainstream AGW theory is quite coherent.

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    Re: Hurricane Sandy caused by AGW!!!!!

    Its all about CO2 lagging temperature

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    Re: Hurricane Sandy caused by AGW!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by mysticsoto View Post
    The point still stands that this idea that skeptics
    Please do not call them "skeptics". To be a skeptic, you have to be willing to change your opinion based on new evidence presented. They aren't. They latch onto any spurious blog or pseudo-journal paper so long as it is critical of mainstream theory. It's not about science to them. It's political and ideological.

    They are denialists.

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    Re: Hurricane Sandy caused by AGW!!!!!

    Says the natural cycle denier... Sorry, couldn't help myself. How have you been Gebobs?

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    Re: Hurricane Sandy caused by AGW!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    Its all about CO2 lagging temperature
    Keep going. Now's when you tell me how that rules out anthropogenic warming.

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    Re: Hurricane Sandy caused by AGW!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    Says the natural cycle denier... Sorry, couldn't help myself. How have you been Gebobs?
    Dandy. Just got back from Sicily.

    But anyhoo...I don't deny natural cycles at all. Neither does any climatologist worth their salt. That's a bit of a strawman.

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    Re: Hurricane Sandy caused by AGW!!!!!

    I blame carbonated beverages for vast CO2 increases but well have to wait for the lag to see the effect I guess. I saw that pic you posted on that mountain. that looked beautiful.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I blame carbonated beverages for vast CO2 increases but well have to wait for the lag to see the effect I guess. I saw that pic you posted on that mountain. that looked beautiful.

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    Re: Hurricane Sandy caused by AGW!!!!!

    Daylight Saving Time is also caused by Global Warming.

    Patti

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    Re: Hurricane Sandy caused by AGW!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Discotrish View Post
    Daylight Saving Time is also caused by Global Warming.
    What causes that gale between your ears?

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