gebobs (11-07-2012)
I almost HOPE the cons continue this stonewalling bull***** of theirs, watch them all get swept right the hell out in 2014 when the voting populace is sick of their crap.
The Republicans got their asses handed to them. Obama's up by almost 3,000,000 votes. He will win Florida which will give him a landslide victory in Electoral College of 232 - 203. Just as a comparison Bush won re-election in 2004 by 2,000,000 popular votes and the EC by 286-252.
Democrats have now won the popular vote for president 5 out of the past 6 elections.
Republicans blew the chance to take over the Senate TWO times now, by nominating far right wingers. Just 18 months ago, you would have been crazy to predict that the Dems would pick up 2 seats...now, they have done just that.
They picked up about 6 seats in the House, despite gerrymandering by the Republicans that makes democracy a joke.
The fastest growing demographics...women, especially single women, Hispanics and other minorities went OVERWHELMINGLY to Obama. All the GOP has left is angry white aging men.
The writing is on the wall for further changes to the American electorate that makes it harder and harder for todays GOP to even survive.
Polls taken by actual voters paint a stark picture for the GOP.
Urban voters O-62% R-36%
Suburban O-48% R-50%
18-29 O-60% R-37%
Single women O-685 R-30%
Hispanics O-69% R-29%
Asian O-74% R-25%
'Taxes should be raised on rich or everyone' - 60%
'Taxes should not be raised on anyone' - 35%
'The deficit is most important issue' - 10%
'Obamacare should be repealed' - 25%
Will the GOP learn from this and start co-operating with President Obama? I doubt it.
They will provide the usual excuses for their drubbing...fake media bias...Romney was too moderate...Sandy helped Obama...non-existant voter "fraud"...Romney moved to the middle...they need a "real" conservative to run.
It may take one more embarrassing defeat to get the moderates in the party to take a stand. Maybe Rick Santorum will win the nomination in 2016, and get crushed by Hillary.
We'll know very soon if there is some light at the end of the tunnel. Obama has the upper hand with all the Bush tax cuts set to expire, and cuts in defense spending that Republicans just cannot tolerate are automatically going to go into effect in less than three months.
In 2010, Mitch McConnell, the most powerful elected Republican in the country said that his party's #1 priority was to deny President Obama a second term. Not jobs...not the economy....not protecting the country. Defeating Obama over doing what is right for the country.
It was a fatal admission that I think was the tipping point in the election.
Let's hope that he changes his tune, and starts doing what the people of this country expect out of their elected officials. Doing what's best for the country and it's citizens instead of what's best for his political party.
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Fifty percent (50%) of Likely U.S. Voters favor repeal of President Obama’s national health care law, while 44% are opposed to repeal, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.
A week ago, 54% favored repeal, and most voters have favored repeal of the law in regular surveys since its passage in March 2010. But this is the closest the enthusiasm level on the two sides has ever been: 39% now Strongly Favor repeal, while nearly as many (37%) Strongly Oppose it. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics
But then again... 49% of voters think the war on terror is being won so... My numbers are as full of shyte like yours, Notty.
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Fifty percent (50%) of Likely U.S. Voters favor repeal of President Obama’s national health care law, while 44% are opposed to repeal, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.
A week ago, 54% favored repeal, and most voters have favored repeal of the law in regular surveys since its passage in March 2010. But this is the closest the enthusiasm level on the two sides has ever been: 39% now Strongly Favor repeal, while nearly as many (37%) Strongly Oppose it. (To see survey question wording, click here.)
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics
But then again... 49% of voters think the war on terror is being won so... My numbers are as full of shyte like yours, Notty.
Gilly (11-18-2012)
Yeah, but when you actually explain to people what is IN the A.C.A, then all of a sudden it's something like 70% in favor of it.
Rasmussen is a joke, by far one of the, if not the, most partisan polls out there. It has very little, if any, credibility. Start paying attention.
Rasmussen is for dummies.
Not at all. It was a factual question since McConnell said from day one he wasn't going to work with the President and their goal was to try and make him a one term President. All that work they put in at doing nothing failed for them.
I expect the economy to keep gaining jobs like it has for over 30 straight months now and the 5 million net jobs created during that span. Not the 800k jobs a month that Bush was losing and the negative job creation he had during his term.
Clinton had to clean up the mess of Bush Sr and it's Obama's job to clean up the mess of Bush Jr. There seems to be a certain theme here but of course the right doesn't like to admit to facts.
Last edited by BillsFever21; 11-07-2012 at 03:59 PM.
Whatchu talking about Willis?
YankeeInRaleigh (11-07-2012)
On both sides of the aisle the notion of working together usually means the other guys need to compromise. They may get some minor stuff done, but Republicans are going to reason (correctly) that the voters who put them in office (or returned them to congress) want them to remain consistent to the political position they espoused during the campaign. Democrats too, of course.
I've made up my mind. Don't confuse me with the facts.
A wise man doesn't waste effort telling the world he's wise. If it's true, it will be self-evident.
YardRat (11-07-2012)
The American right, like wild animals, cannot be rehabilitated, they can only be controlled.
Given the chance, they would rip out the throats of Obama and anyone to the left of Genghis Khan.
Expecting them to be bi-partisan is suicidally foolish.
Keep a boot on their throats and civilization will prosper.
Let them run free and they'll eat us all.
boisterous hubris, arrogance, self deception, conspiracy, mud slinging mixed with a heavy dose of self righteousness.
This false equivalency **** has to end.
Obama reached across the aisle non stop and Republicans wouldn't even come to the table. See the budget, see the debt limit, see tax reform, see the unprecedented rise in filibusters.
Republicans wanted to tick out the clock for two years, make sure Obama couldn't accomplish anything (at the cost of normal Americans) and then claim victory on Tuesday.
Whoops.
Blew up in their faces, didn't it?
Obama watered down his healthcare reform to make you lunatics happy. He backed off immigration to make you lunatics happy. He didn't touch gun control despite record mass shootings to make you lunatics happy.
Now you want to pretend he didn't invite you guys to the table?
Come back to reality if you want to have an adult conversation.
If not, have fun becoming yet another fringe lunatic who becomes increasingly irrelevant in American politics.
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Last edited by JoeMama; 11-08-2012 at 10:54 AM.
I was at restaurant here in Athens GA on election night. The owners are casual friends of mine. The wife is liberal and the husband is a frothing conservative. We get into politics every once in a while and the arguments are fun. I cite facts and he cites gut feelings. It's quite one-sided.
Anyhoo...we were sitting at the bar watching the returns and when Obama came on he said "I wish someone would just shoot that mothereffer right now so this country could get back on track." I shook my head and laughed it off, but I know he's dead serious about it. He would buy the house a round if Obama was assassinated.
Spartacus (11-08-2012)
gebobs (11-08-2012)
They were always true.
It just takes a while to break through the conditioning.
This is why I continue to take all sorts of idiotic **** from you guys yet still feel great affection for you.
It's not all your fault, like the kids who's parents send them to Jesus Camp.
You've all been abused in the service of a manipulative and self-serving ideology.
This pretty much says it all!! These people have absolutely no class what so ever!!!
Boehner, McConnell refuse to take President's election-night call: The first lesson of the 2nd term
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/08/1159300/-The-first-lesson-of-the-second-term