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    Re: Where does the GOP turn?

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    I assume you see no negatives with single payer. I like salt.
    Why would you assume that? There are plenty of negatives with the free for all we've had our entire lives, but maybe that doesn't matter to you since you largely benefit from it.
    Gailey's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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    Re: Where does the GOP turn?

    boisterous hubris, arrogance, self deception, conspiracy, mud slinging mixed with a heavy dose of self righteousness.

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    Re: Where does the GOP turn?

    Quote Originally Posted by gebobs View Post
    Why would you assume that? There are plenty of negatives with the free for all we've had our entire lives, but maybe that doesn't matter to you since you largely benefit from it.
    So you think it's because I design radiation therapy plans for cancer patients that I am against single payer? Actually my job would become easier... much easier without having to learn new techniques and therapeutic modes. everyone would get treated ala 1994 style. Simple treatments for all. Screw needing to learn Proton Beam therapy or even Rapid arc or tomotherapy...

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    Re: Where does the GOP turn?

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    So you think it's because I design radiation therapy plans for cancer patients that I am against single payer?
    Nope. Didn't assume that either. You said, "I assume you see no negatives with single payer." I said I didn't, but was wondering why you would ask such a frivolous question. There are negatives in any complex healthcare system. Most notably the one we have now.

    Actually my job would become easier... much easier without having to learn new techniques and therapeutic modes. everyone would get treated ala 1994 style. Simple treatments for all. Screw needing to learn Proton Beam therapy or even Rapid arc or tomotherapy...x
    You're an engineer?

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    Re: Where does the GOP turn?

    CMD - Certified Medical Dosimetrist

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    Re: Where does the GOP turn?

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    CMD - Certified Medical Dosimetrist
    Yikes. Well good on you.

    Anyhoo...so how about this development on immigration? What's your take on it? Will the GOP go further?

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    Re: Where does the GOP turn?

    Pathway to citizenship? You mean for those brought hear illegally as small children that win all the awards in high school and college? I think there should be something in the way of allowing those individuals become citizens... Is there another immigration issue I am missing?

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    Pathway to citizenship? You mean for those brought hear illegally as small children that win all the awards in high school and college? I think there should be something in the way of allowing those individuals become citizens... Is there another immigration issue I am missing?

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    Re: Where does the GOP turn?

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    Pathway to citizenship? You mean for those brought hear illegally as small children
    For all undocumented immigrants.

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    Re: Where does the GOP turn?

    Quote Originally Posted by gebobs View Post
    For all undocumented immigrants.
    Only way repubs can compete with free is to up the offer. Repubs should propose that all undocumented immigrants (pc for illegals ) should go to the post office fill out a postcard (like selected services) and receive full citizenship in return...

    Next propose that all hospitals cease and desist any billing practices. Treat any and all who ask...

    Send each and every citizen a $500/week tax free check for expenses and entertainment...


    raise tax rate on top 10 to 95%, no deductions. Print or borrow any additional "revenue" needed...

    Just some starting points for repubs to get back into the game....
    If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what.
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    Re: Where does the GOP turn?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Only way repubs can compete with free is to up the offer. Repubs should propose that all undocumented immigrants (pc for illegals ) should go to the post office fill out a postcard (like selected services) and receive full citizenship in return...

    Next propose that all hospitals cease and desist any billing practices. Treat any and all who ask...

    Send each and every citizen a $500/week tax free check for expenses and entertainment...


    raise tax rate on top 10 to 95%, no deductions. Print or borrow any additional "revenue" needed...

    Just some starting points for repubs to get back into the game....
    I like it!!!

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    Re: Where does the GOP turn?

    Quote Originally Posted by denverboz View Post
    I like it!!!

    Im converted. I see now this is how to win elections....

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    Re: Where does the GOP turn?

    A chink in their armor!!!!


    David Frum on Morning Joe: "Republicans have been fleeced
    and exploited and lied to by a conservative entertainment complex."


    yeah this is definitely gonna be fun to watch!!!

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    Re: Where does the GOP turn?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Im converted. I see now this is how to win elections....
    Good for you man!!! It's not so bad dude!!! :)

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    Re: Where does the GOP turn?

    Quote Originally Posted by denverboz View Post
    A chink in their armor!!!!


    David Frum on Morning Joe: "Republicans have been fleeced
    and exploited and lied to by a conservative entertainment complex."


    yeah this is definitely gonna be fun to watch!!!
    We've ALL been fleeced and I've been telling you that for ten years.

    But then, I worked for 30 years in the entertainment complex and I can recognize bull**** when I see it.

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    Re: Where does the GOP turn?

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    So you think it's because I design radiation therapy plans for cancer patients that I am against single payer? Actually my job would become easier... much easier without having to learn new techniques and therapeutic modes. everyone would get treated ala 1994 style. Simple treatments for all. Screw needing to learn Proton Beam therapy or even Rapid arc or tomotherapy...
    I see your knowledge of modern single-payer healthcare is stuck in the last century
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    Re: Where does the GOP turn?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Only way repubs can compete with free is to up the offer. Repubs should propose that all undocumented immigrants (pc for illegals ) should go to the post office fill out a postcard (like selected services) and receive full citizenship in return...

    Next propose that all hospitals cease and desist any billing practices. Treat any and all who ask...

    Send each and every citizen a $500/week tax free check for expenses and entertainment...


    raise tax rate on top 10 to 95%, no deductions. Print or borrow any additional "revenue" needed...

    Just some starting points for repubs to get back into the game....
    With the exception of your immigration idea (its on the right track, but too lenient), and the 500 dollars a week tax free check for expenses and entertainment, this is a great plan.

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    Re: Where does the GOP turn?

    Quote Originally Posted by gebobs View Post
    Since Alf Landon.
    Poor Alf, a Kansas Republican who could not even win Kansas (that will never again happen in a presidential election. A Kansas Democrat could lose the state of Kansas, but never again would a Kansas Republican lose a presidential election in the state of Kansas). Actually, its not so much that Alf was a lousy candidate as much as it was that FDR was able to show he was working to get us out of the collapse of 1929. ****, if FDR didn't try to pack the courts in 1937, there would be no RNC. I am serious, it would have ceased to exist. Also, I am quite confident that we would have had a European style universal healthcare system by the end of the 1930s if the court packing scandal hadn't had happened. Don't believe me? Google what happened in 1930, 1932, 1934, and 1936 in the congressional and presidential elections, and the gubenatorial elections. Another party would have risen to take its place, but the GOP would have been no more.
    Last edited by MST3KBillsfan; 11-10-2012 at 05:53 AM.

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    Re: Where does the GOP turn?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibby View Post
    With the exception of your immigration idea (its on the right track, but too lenient), and the 500 dollars a week tax free check for expenses and entertainment, this is a great plan.

    you racist!!!

    i am liking how you guys do things better....

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