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  • DraftBoy
    Administrator
    • Jul 2002
    • 107296

    #16
    Re: mel kiper

    Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
    You seem to really like small school QBs. Why is that? I know you've been hyping Dysert this year and now guys from SJ State and Cornell?

    As a side note, the thought of replacing a Harvard QB with a Cornell QB would be pretty funny.
    Because details matter. Anybody can name an SEC QB like Bray or Murray, how many know that there is an Ivy League QB with NFL potential, that the WAC conference even still exists, or that neither Bray nor Murray are the best QB prospects in their own conference?

    Championships are built on drafts that are successful on all four days of the draft not just the first or second one. Its important to know as much about the QB you're bringing into camp as a Free Agent as the OT you drafted in Round 1.
    COMING SOON...
    Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
    We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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    • GingerP
      Registered User
      • Aug 2012
      • 1717

      #17
      Re: mel kiper

      When was the last Ivy League QB that went on to be really good in the NFL? Sid Luckman? Usually they are schmucks like Fitzpatrick or Jay Fiedler.

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      • JoeMama
        Emotion Sickness
        • Oct 2002
        • 18117

        #18
        Re: mel kiper

        Fitz is not the answer at QB.

        If we're in capable hands (doubtful), we'll take a QB in round 1.

        You can't win with a guy whose arm dies out in mid October and can't handle cold weather.

        It used to be, we had Jim Kelly. And he was tough as nails and won all but one game at home in January.

        Fitz can't play in the elements and he can barely play after 4 games have occurred.

        He's a loser and it's time to cut our losses.
        Disclaimer: The sentiment expressed in this post is strictly for entertainment purposes only.

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        • BidsJr
          Registered User
          • Sep 2002
          • 2858

          #19
          Re: mel kiper

          Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
          I wrote about this months ago with regard to the lack of QB need in this years class.
          Neat.
          "Well I drink too much and get punched in the head by fighters for fun, so my memory isn't so great." -OpIv37

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          • BuffaloWingEater
            Registered User
            • Aug 2012
            • 496

            #20
            Re: mel kiper

            is klein coming out? is he any good?

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            • Ed
              Registered User
              • Sep 2002
              • 9176

              #21
              Re: mel kiper

              Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
              watch this be the year where we completely bottom out, lose the rest of our games, and there is no QB available.....
              Even if we bottom out, we'll probably still be picking behind KC and Jacksonville, and I think they're both likely to take qb's with their first pick.

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              • trapezeus
                Legendary Zoner
                • Oct 2004
                • 19525

                #22
                Re: mel kiper

                i am banging my drum for klein simply for his winner status and elevating a school that wasn't supposed to be as good as it is. yeah, he is a better tebow...and i hate tebow...but he won last year. and i am coming around that winners find ways, and simply strong armed or simply smart qb's may or may not pan out.

                you want a guy who knows how to get it done. you don't hvae to take this guy in the first round to prove you are genius, but you have to get your hands on this guy. because like tebow, if he comes in as a backup, he's going to push the first guy. and if the first guy doesn't get it done, you feel a lot of comfort of going to number 2.

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                • DraftBoy
                  Administrator
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 107296

                  #23
                  Re: mel kiper

                  Originally posted by BuffaloWingEater View Post
                  is klein coming out? is he any good?
                  He's a senior so yes, and he's not a NFL Qb.
                  COMING SOON...
                  Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                  We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                  • BuffaloWingEater
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 496

                    #24
                    Re: mel kiper

                    Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
                    He's a senior so yes, and he's not a NFL Qb.
                    why?

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                    • jamze132
                      Registered User
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 29024

                      #25
                      Re: mel kiper

                      Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                      watch this be the year where we completely bottom out, lose the rest of our games, and there is no QB available.....
                      Exactly what I would expect to happen. Or the opposite could happen where a can't miss QB is there for us he turns out to be Jamarcus Russell.

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                      • DraftBoy
                        Administrator
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 107296

                        #26
                        Re: mel kiper

                        Originally posted by BuffaloWingEater View Post
                        why?
                        Mechanics mostly, his motion is horrible, his footwork is sloppy, and his accuracy is questionable at best, the scheme is designed to give him a lot of throws to WR's that aren't in tight coverage, which allows his cmp pct to be better than his actual accuracy is. You need to re-work his entire motion, teach him how to drop back, and get rid of his tendency to take off after only one or two reads.
                        COMING SOON...
                        Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
                        We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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                        • BuffaloWingEater
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 496

                          #27
                          Re: mel kiper

                          Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
                          Mechanics mostly, his motion is horrible, his footwork is sloppy, and his accuracy is questionable at best, the scheme is designed to give him a lot of throws to WR's that aren't in tight coverage, which allows his cmp pct to be better than his actual accuracy is. You need to re-work his entire motion, teach him how to drop back, and get rid of his tendency to take off after only one or two reads.
                          that's too bad. it seems that nobody coming out of college this year is a franchise qb.

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                          • Don't Panic
                            All-Pro Zoner
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 4227

                            #28
                            Re: mel kiper

                            Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                            watch this be the year where we completely bottom out, lose the rest of our games, and there is no QB available.....
                            You always find a way, don't you...

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                            • Don't Panic
                              All-Pro Zoner
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 4227

                              #29
                              Re: mel kiper

                              Originally posted by Ed View Post
                              Even if we bottom out, we'll probably still be picking behind KC and Jacksonville, and I think they're both likely to take qb's with their first pick.
                              I think that Jax will stick with Gabbert... too many other needs. Its the trade up that we have to worry about... especially when there are only two 1st round worthy QBs.

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                              • djjimkelly
                                Registered User
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 7045

                                #30
                                Re: mel kiper

                                one thing im thinking is KC gets top pick and wont pick a qb becuz one isnt top ten worthy let alone the top pick.

                                i think the stars are aligning for us to get a guy

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