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    The entire moral landscape has changed

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/10/us...=fb-share&_r=0

    Christian conservatives, for more than two decades a pivotal force in American politics, are grappling with Election Day results that repudiated their influence and suggested that the cultural tide — especially on gay issues — has shifted against them.........

    “Millions of American evangelicals are absolutely shocked by not just the presidential election, but by the entire avalanche of results that came in,” R. Albert Mohler Jr., president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, in Louisville, Ky., said in an interview. “It’s not that our message — we think abortion is wrong, we think same-sex marriage is wrong — didn’t get out. It did get out.

    “It’s that the entire moral landscape has changed,” he said. “An increasingly secularized America understands our positions, and has rejected them.”


    Conservative Christian leaders said that they would intensify their efforts to make their case, but were just beginning to discuss how to proceed. “We’re not going away, we just need to recalibrate,” said Bob Vander Plaats, president and chief executive of The Family Leader, an evangelical organization in Iowa.


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    Re: The entire moral landscape has changed

    Yeah Baby!!!!!

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    Re: The entire moral landscape has changed

    Oh my god, you mean their 2000 year old tome for retards isn't relevant in today's America and they're all living a horrible, hateful lie???

    Say it ain't so.

    DAMN YOU SECULAR AMERICA!!!

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    Re: The entire moral landscape has changed

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMama View Post
    Oh my god, you mean their 2000 year old tome for retards isn't relevant in today's America and they're all living a horrible, hateful lie???

    Say it ain't so.

    DAMN YOU SECULAR AMERICA!!!
    You sound so fearless.

    You must have electricity.

    Patti

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    Re: The entire moral landscape has changed

    Quote Originally Posted by Discotrish View Post
    You sound so fearless.

    You must have electricity.

    Patti
    Thank you for bringing up electricity.

    A secular American by the name of Benjamin Franklin only invented it.

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    Re: The entire moral landscape has changed

    Invented it? Because there was never any lightning before he did?
    "'Clean up your room.', 'Stand up straight.', 'Pick up your feet.', 'Take it like a man.', 'Be nice to your sister.', 'Don't mix beer and wine, ever.'. Oh yeah, 'Don't drive on the railroad track.'"

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    Re: The entire moral landscape has changed

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeInRoch View Post
    Invented it? Because there was never any lightning before he did?
    i wanted to say this too, but joe mama is too awesome to correct. guys awesome.

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    Re: The entire moral landscape has changed

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMama View Post
    Thank you for bringing up electricity.

    A secular American by the name of Benjamin Franklin only invented it.
    i suggest you relearn your history. Ben Franklin was many things... secular was not one. His christian credentials were questionable at best... but at heart he was a deitst. As in he believed in god, no... more then that, he believed with all his heart the worlds existence was proof of a god, he just wasn't sure what god was. Thomas Jefferson was in the same boat, though he leaned much more Christian then Ben Franklin, if you read his writings it's clear at points in his life he was a full hearted christian, in others he doubted... generally though like Franklin, he had no doubt in the existence of a God... he just wasn't willing to say what form that God took.
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    Re: The entire moral landscape has changed

    Quote Originally Posted by Discotrish View Post
    You sound so fearless.

    You must have electricity.

    Patti
    lol. So true and hilarious
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    Re: The entire moral landscape has changed

    So it is now my civil right to marry 6 different women???

    Awesome, I can get used to the new "anything goes" society...
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    Re: The entire moral landscape has changed

    Quote Originally Posted by Discotrish View Post
    You sound so fearless.

    You must have electricity.

    Patti
    Secularists generally do not fear that which does not exist. It has nothing to do with fear of the power of nature.

    The superstitious fear that you are talking about, the fear that promts people to "do God's will" so that he stops punishing us, doesn't work on us.

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    Re: The entire moral landscape has changed

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    So it is now my civil right to marry 6 different women???

    Awesome, I can get used to the new "anything goes" society...
    What?

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    Re: The entire moral landscape has changed

    Today's tweet from CJ Spiller. What an out of touch, crazy loon!!


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    In that wonderful day you will sing: “Thank the Lord! Praise his name! Tell the nations what he has done.…http://bible.us/116/isa.12.4.nlt …

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    Re: The entire moral landscape has changed

    Brad Smith...freak! totally out of touch with reality.


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    Re: The entire moral landscape has changed

    any of you wanna tell Jason Witten to his face what a loser he is?


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    Re: The entire moral landscape has changed

    Hope we don't draft Matt Barkely


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    Re: The entire moral landscape has changed

    So now the standard of how to live a life is to copy the beliefs of pro football players.


    Good to know Plaxico.

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    Re: The entire moral landscape has changed

    alcoholic druggie out of touch right wing freak

    http://www.iamsecond.com/seconds/josh-hamilton/

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    Re: The entire moral landscape has changed

    Well this thread at least at one time had potential, then the usual happens. Christians play the victim card and all possible positive discussion goes out the window.
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