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    Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

    Quote Originally Posted by lightningbolt444 View Post
    I actually think if fitz threw it to a better spot he was open. just had to throw it to the back of the endzone. No one will know if he ran the wrong route or not except the team when they look at the tape.
    Agreed, we don't know what route it was or what he's suppose to do if it's not there, if anything it looked like a case of trying to force something that wasn't there and as far as Fitz being the only reason we were in that game, I disagree, aside from the receivers making him look good all day, Spiller and Jackson were the reason we were in that game. I'm still disgusted that Spiller gets only 13 touches, 9 runs and 4 receptions, what will it take to get it in Gaileys head that he is a playmaker and needs to be used.

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    Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mahdi View Post
    Its called a timing route. And the right coverage was there for a completion but Graham goes the wrong way. Its very obvious. Fitz was fine on that play. If Graham goes under its caught.

    Fitz just said the complete opposite.

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    Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

    Quote Originally Posted by kishoph View Post
    Fitz just said the complete opposite.



    LOL Funny how these morons posting on this board act like they were in the huddle and knew it was TJ Grahams fault. Fitz lovers are pathetic!

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    Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    No it wasn't the right coverage that's the point. What they showed pre-snap was a disguise for what they were doing. Fitz never read the adjustment and neither did Graham. Its a horrible throw, horrible decision, and horrible route.
    There was plenty of space for either the over or under route to work. The problem was they weren't on same page.

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    Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Novacane View Post
    LOL Funny how these morons posting on this board act like they were in the huddle and knew it was TJ Grahams fault. Fitz lovers are pathetic!
    Well it was clear it was a miscommunication not a bad throw... and that was the point. And try and be respectful when you post.

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    Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

    I'm blaming the refs a lot here but I might have to ask how much Fitz was paid to throw the game at that point...
    Bye Bye Brady...

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    Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mahdi View Post
    There was plenty of space for either the over or under route to work. The problem was they weren't on same page.

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    So the answer is to throw it into the middle of the two? Fitz has to read the coverage and know where McCourty is, and Graham has to know the coverage and know what the route is supposed to be. Fitz never saw McCourty and Graham didn't understand the coverage. Again it was a bad throw, a bad decision, and a bad route.
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    Moneyline was huge on this game, I mean huge. A buddy of mine had one combo for short money that would of paid fortune of this came through, he pegged everything else & actually hit everything but this. I told him that the Bills would win 37-34 & he followed along, so I'm indirectly responsible for that loss.

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    Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    So the answer is to throw it into the middle of the two? Fitz has to read the coverage and know where McCourty is, and Graham has to know the coverage and know what the route is supposed to be. Fitz never saw McCourty and Graham didn't understand the coverage. Again it was a bad throw, a bad decision, and a bad route.
    In this rare instance, the throw was spot on but Fitz needed to confirm how deep the WR was before he tossed that rock.

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    Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
    In this rare instance, the throw was spot on but Fitz needed to confirm how deep the WR was before he tossed that rock.
    Pace and placement wise sure, but he still failed to ID the defender and there was no communication about which cut Graham is making. Even in a shallower cut McCoutry still has a shot to break on that ball. Fitz literally never sees him.

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    Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

    It's hard to confirm before throwing in the NFL, have to anticipate the throw. How dumb is Graham though, where is he going to go with that route? You have to use your head, and he didn't.

    Targeting Graham is just a bad idea, can't run a route, is small so it's harder for him to shield a DB when going over the middle like he did. Sal posted an image on the underneath coverage, Fitz had Spiller for a 5 yard gain at the minimum.
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    According to Gailey, Graham has to option to cut it up or take it deeper, depending on the depth of the coverage, from this pic, it looks like he made the right choice, if he would of cut it up there were 2 LB's right near the goal line.

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    Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mahdi View Post
    There was plenty of space for either the over or under route to work. The problem was they weren't on same page.

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    With the undercut you're pointing out, Graham is tackled in the field of play. No Timeouts. You'll have the ball at the 2 yard line with about 20 seconds left. Johnson was wide open on this play on the top too in the end zone, btw.

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    Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

    Another factor that weighs heavier is why we didn't target our TE, he killed them all day open yet wasn't part of the final equation.

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    Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

    Quote Originally Posted by FunTimesYaY! View Post
    With the undercut you're pointing out, Graham is tackled in the field of play. No Timeouts. You'll have the ball at the 2 yard line with about 20 seconds left. Johnson was wide open on this play on the top too in the end zone, btw.
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    Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

    Quote Originally Posted by kishoph View Post
    According to Gailey, Graham has to option to cut it up or take it deeper, depending on the depth of the coverage, from this pic, it looks like he made the right choice, if he would of cut it up there were 2 LB's right near the goal line.
    Exactly. Which means it was a miscommunication or not on same page. NOT a bad throw...

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    Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mahdi View Post
    Exactly. Which means it was a miscommunication or not on same page. NOT a bad throw...
    It's either a bad route or a bad throw. One of the two.

    Looking at that picture, I'm inclined to say bad throw. Fitz throws to the back of the end zone, that's a TD.

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    Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

    Quote Originally Posted by FunTimesYaY! View Post
    It's either a bad route or a bad throw. One of the two.

    Looking at that picture, I'm inclined to say bad throw. Fitz throws to the back of the end zone, that's a TD.
    If he threw to anyone else, we might of won.

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    Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

    Quote Originally Posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
    If he threw to anyone else, we might of won.
    That too.

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    Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

    Quote Originally Posted by FunTimesYaY! View Post
    That too.
    It's really the part that hurts the most, we could of failed to score with all the time left & tried again. I usually wonder why the team doesn't recognize the position we're in and try again, Fitz threw it into the ground based on a hot read failure previously but decided to try and overcome a position mismatch at that moment.

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