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  • ServoBillieves
    The Voice of Reason
    • Jul 2007
    • 6106

    Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

    I'm blaming the refs a lot here but I might have to ask how much Fitz was paid to throw the game at that point...
    Bye Bye Brady...

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    • DraftBoy
      Administrator
      • Jul 2002
      • 107296

      Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

      Originally posted by Mahdi View Post
      There was plenty of space for either the over or under route to work. The problem was they weren't on same page.

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      So the answer is to throw it into the middle of the two? Fitz has to read the coverage and know where McCourty is, and Graham has to know the coverage and know what the route is supposed to be. Fitz never saw McCourty and Graham didn't understand the coverage. Again it was a bad throw, a bad decision, and a bad route.
      Last edited by DraftBoy; 11-11-2012, 05:07 PM.
      COMING SOON...
      Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
      We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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      • MitchMurrayDowntown
        Skoobasaurus-Rex
        • Oct 2011
        • 22263

        Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

        Moneyline was huge on this game, I mean huge. A buddy of mine had one combo for short money that would of paid fortune of this came through, he pegged everything else & actually hit everything but this. I told him that the Bills would win 37-34 & he followed along, so I'm indirectly responsible for that loss.

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        • MitchMurrayDowntown
          Skoobasaurus-Rex
          • Oct 2011
          • 22263

          Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

          Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
          So the answer is to throw it into the middle of the two? Fitz has to read the coverage and know where McCourty is, and Graham has to know the coverage and know what the route is supposed to be. Fitz never saw McCourty and Graham didn't understand the coverage. Again it was a bad throw, a bad decision, and a bad route.
          In this rare instance, the throw was spot on but Fitz needed to confirm how deep the WR was before he tossed that rock.

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          • DraftBoy
            Administrator
            • Jul 2002
            • 107296

            Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

            Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
            In this rare instance, the throw was spot on but Fitz needed to confirm how deep the WR was before he tossed that rock.
            Pace and placement wise sure, but he still failed to ID the defender and there was no communication about which cut Graham is making. Even in a shallower cut McCoutry still has a shot to break on that ball. Fitz literally never sees him.
            COMING SOON...
            Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
            We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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            • kingJofNYC
              Registered User
              • Sep 2009
              • 5960

              Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

              It's hard to confirm before throwing in the NFL, have to anticipate the throw. How dumb is Graham though, where is he going to go with that route? You have to use your head, and he didn't.

              Targeting Graham is just a bad idea, can't run a route, is small so it's harder for him to shield a DB when going over the middle like he did. Sal posted an image on the underneath coverage, Fitz had Spiller for a 5 yard gain at the minimum.
              Last edited by kingJofNYC; 11-11-2012, 05:25 PM.

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              • kishoph
                Registered User
                • Jun 2003
                • 3157

                Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

                According to Gailey, Graham has to option to cut it up or take it deeper, depending on the depth of the coverage, from this pic, it looks like he made the right choice, if he would of cut it up there were 2 LB's right near the goal line.

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                • Mr. Pink
                  Peterman Sucks!
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 35303

                  Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

                  Originally posted by Mahdi View Post
                  There was plenty of space for either the over or under route to work. The problem was they weren't on same page.

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                  With the undercut you're pointing out, Graham is tackled in the field of play. No Timeouts. You'll have the ball at the 2 yard line with about 20 seconds left. Johnson was wide open on this play on the top too in the end zone, btw.

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                  • MitchMurrayDowntown
                    Skoobasaurus-Rex
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 22263

                    Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

                    Another factor that weighs heavier is why we didn't target our TE, he killed them all day open yet wasn't part of the final equation.

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                    • Mahdi
                      Registered User
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 10584

                      Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

                      Originally posted by FunTimesYaY! View Post
                      With the undercut you're pointing out, Graham is tackled in the field of play. No Timeouts. You'll have the ball at the 2 yard line with about 20 seconds left. Johnson was wide open on this play on the top too in the end zone, btw.
                      Spike.

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                      • Mahdi
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 10584

                        Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

                        Originally posted by kishoph View Post
                        According to Gailey, Graham has to option to cut it up or take it deeper, depending on the depth of the coverage, from this pic, it looks like he made the right choice, if he would of cut it up there were 2 LB's right near the goal line.
                        Exactly. Which means it was a miscommunication or not on same page. NOT a bad throw...

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                        • Mr. Pink
                          Peterman Sucks!
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 35303

                          Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

                          Originally posted by Mahdi View Post
                          Exactly. Which means it was a miscommunication or not on same page. NOT a bad throw...
                          It's either a bad route or a bad throw. One of the two.

                          Looking at that picture, I'm inclined to say bad throw. Fitz throws to the back of the end zone, that's a TD.

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                          • MitchMurrayDowntown
                            Skoobasaurus-Rex
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 22263

                            Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

                            Originally posted by FunTimesYaY! View Post
                            It's either a bad route or a bad throw. One of the two.

                            Looking at that picture, I'm inclined to say bad throw. Fitz throws to the back of the end zone, that's a TD.
                            If he threw to anyone else, we might of won.

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                            • Mr. Pink
                              Peterman Sucks!
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 35303

                              Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

                              Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
                              If he threw to anyone else, we might of won.
                              That too.

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                              • MitchMurrayDowntown
                                Skoobasaurus-Rex
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 22263

                                Re: Buffalo Bills @ Pats GDT!!

                                Originally posted by FunTimesYaY! View Post
                                That too.
                                It's really the part that hurts the most, we could of failed to score with all the time left & tried again. I usually wonder why the team doesn't recognize the position we're in and try again, Fitz threw it into the ground based on a hot read failure previously but decided to try and overcome a position mismatch at that moment.

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