Spiller was wide open on the last play for the Bills offense

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  • kishoph
    Registered User
    • Jun 2003
    • 3157

    #46
    Re: Spiller was wide open on the last play for the Bills offense

    With a good QB all the options could of worked, you had CJ wide open coming accross the middle, with Stevie, while the safety was in good position, was open at the 5 and a good throw could of beast the safety and with Graham, what's to say it was Fitz isn't the one that chose the wrong option, Graham had almost 8 yards of endzone behind McCourty, who was crouching at the goal line most of the play, which would of forced Graham to force it up short of the goal line, so Graham chose to go deep. This teams needs a QB that can make decisions and plays, without having the perfect scenerio, which he screws up most of the time anyway.

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    • MitchMurrayDowntown
      Skoobasaurus-Rex
      • Oct 2011
      • 22284

      #47
      Re: Spiller was wide open on the last play for the Bills offense

      You don't throw to the side with the most opponents unless someone is clearly open, which in this case wasn't the case.

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      • Buffalogic
        Rumblin' Stumblin' Bumblin'
        • Feb 2006
        • 5345

        #48
        Re: Spiller was wide open on the last play for the Bills offense

        Originally posted by kingJofNYC View Post
        Great write up. For the umpteenth time, CJ and TJ were the main options.



        What did I say in my original post that was ridiculous? You posted an image and said Fitz still had the ball in his hand, which he clearly didn't, the ball was actually in the air but you could barely make it out. As you can now see, with the above images, your initial description was dead wrong.

        Im not excusing Fitz, he sucks, but I'm also not going to exaggerate things just to make the situation look worse.
        No you are dead wrong. Obviously

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        • kingJofNYC
          Registered User
          • Sep 2009
          • 5960

          #49
          Re: Spiller was wide open on the last play for the Bills offense

          Originally posted by Wagon Circler View Post
          No you are dead wrong. Obviously
          Nah, you're just trolling. Find a screenshot with Steve wide open and with the ball in Fitz's hand, you can't, but keep trying I guess.

          Who ****ing cares, they lost, Fitz sucks and that singular play isn't going to change that.

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          • xXSpIkes5IXx
            Registered User
            • Mar 2006
            • 247

            #50
            Re: Spiller was wide open on the last play for the Bills offense

            Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
            In NFL terms, he was wide open.
            Im no NFL coach or QB, but that coverage is a 2 deep zone. That safety that everyone is talking about has the left DEEP HALF of the field. Stevie is not open at all. The screen shot shows the safety breaking away from his zone cause Fitz is releasing the ball, and didn't even look his way. Fitz read the coverage and saw fade route Stevie was running was not going to be open. He determined Graham would be the right way to go because, face it, if Graham breaks the way Fitz thinks he is. Thats probably a touchdown. He threw it to a spot where the underneath defender wouldn't close in time, and Graham would be underneath the deep safety.

            Spiller looks to be open. If he can make his man miss, he may have taken it in. The defender looks to have an angle on him for what its worth

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            • xXSpIkes5IXx
              Registered User
              • Mar 2006
              • 247

              #51
              Re: Spiller was wide open on the last play for the Bills offense

              Originally posted by kishoph View Post
              With a good QB all the options could of worked, you had CJ wide open coming accross the middle, with Stevie, while the safety was in good position, was open at the 5 and a good throw could of beast the safety and with Graham, what's to say it was Fitz isn't the one that chose the wrong option, Graham had almost 8 yards of endzone behind McCourty, who was crouching at the goal line most of the play, which would of forced Graham to force it up short of the goal line, so Graham chose to go deep. This teams needs a QB that can make decisions and plays, without having the perfect scenerio, which he screws up most of the time anyway.
              So your saying TJ running his route directly behind the safety so there was no throwing lane was the right decision?

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              • MitchMurrayDowntown
                Skoobasaurus-Rex
                • Oct 2011
                • 22284

                #52
                Re: Spiller was wide open on the last play for the Bills offense

                Originally posted by xXSpIkes5IXx View Post

                Spiller looks to be open. If he can make his man miss, he may have taken it in. The defender looks to have an angle on him for what its worth

                Henceforth the title of this thread.
                Last edited by Skooby; 11-14-2012, 06:18 PM.

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                • kishoph
                  Registered User
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 3157

                  #53
                  Re: Spiller was wide open on the last play for the Bills offense

                  Originally posted by xXSpIkes5IXx View Post
                  So your saying TJ running his route directly behind the safety so there was no throwing lane was the right decision?
                  I don't think I said that, since he chose to go deep, he could of went deeper, but I'm not sure cutting it up would of been the best choice, McCourty had perfect position on the route, for either option. What I have said is that if he would took the underneath, the ball would of been well over his head. It was a bad throw and a terrible decision to go to Graham and not even consider the throwing to the other receivers after the ball was snapped, which Fitz basically admitted to.

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                  • Buffalogic
                    Rumblin' Stumblin' Bumblin'
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 5345

                    #54
                    Re: Spiller was wide open on the last play for the Bills offense

                    Originally posted by kingJofNYC View Post
                    Nah, you're just trolling. Find a screenshot with Steve wide open and with the ball in Fitz's hand, you can't, but keep trying I guess.

                    Who ****ing cares, they lost, Fitz sucks and that singular play isn't going to change that.
                    Then stop wiping fitz's tear about the play and join reality.

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                    • kingJofNYC
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 5960

                      #55
                      Re: Spiller was wide open on the last play for the Bills offense

                      Originally posted by Wagon Circler View Post
                      Then stop wiping fitz's tear about the play and join reality.
                      You're the one crying about Steve being open, he wasn't, that's reality.

                      Fitz being an awful qb has long been established, beating a dead horse.

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                      • MitchMurrayDowntown
                        Skoobasaurus-Rex
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 22284

                        #56
                        Re: Spiller was wide open on the last play for the Bills offense

                        Originally posted by kingJofNYC View Post
                        Fitz being an awful qb has long been established, beating a dead horse.
                        Why this hasn't been addressed is the saddest part

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                        • BertSquirtgum
                          Registered User
                          • May 2009
                          • 13379

                          #57
                          Re: Spiller was wide open on the last play for the Bills offense

                          Steve was just breaking to the right. Safety would have had no chance to get to the ball.

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                          • kingJofNYC
                            Registered User
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 5960

                            #58
                            Re: Spiller was wide open on the last play for the Bills offense

                            Originally posted by HurkeyNuts View Post
                            Steve was just breaking to the right. Safety would have had no chance to get to the ball.
                            How does Steve run a fade by breaking to the right when he's lined up on the left side of the field?

                            Edit: Are you looking at it from the safeties perspective? I still don't think he's that open, tight throw and we all know Fitz can't hit that fade down the sideline, he's missed it all season long.

                            Bottom line, he probably had one sure fire option, CJ. Just like the thread title suggested.
                            Last edited by kingJofNYC; 11-14-2012, 10:09 PM.

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                            • BertSquirtgum
                              Registered User
                              • May 2009
                              • 13379

                              #59
                              Re: Spiller was wide open on the last play for the Bills offense

                              Originally posted by kingJofNYC View Post
                              How does Steve run a fade by breaking to the right when he's lined up on the left side of the field?

                              Edit: Are you looking at it from the safeties perspective? I still don't think he's that open, tight throw and we all know Fitz can't hit that fade down the sideline, he's missed it all season long.

                              Bottom line, he probably had one sure fire option, CJ. Just like the thread title suggested.
                              Who told you he was running a fade? In the video I watched he was starting to run to the right, not to the corner of the end zone.

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                              • kingJofNYC
                                Registered User
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 5960

                                #60
                                Re: Spiller was wide open on the last play for the Bills offense

                                Originally posted by HurkeyNuts View Post
                                Who told you he was running a fade? In the video I watched he was starting to run to the right, not to the corner of the end zone.
                                You must be watching a different video.

                                Here, read this

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                                You'll probably understand things better. If you're too lazy to read, Kishoph and Illuminatus posted the images. Steve was to the left of Fitz, in the slot, he clears coverage for Spiller by running a fade.

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