nfl u pathetic ****s

[gebobs]

Neither of you have ever seen a play that was over and then a few seconds later a rapid fire blowing of the whistle? Seriously?

Next Sunday when the Bills play watch the game and see if you can hear a whistle after every play of the game. Actually pay attention for it.

You'll notice there will be at least a handful of plays where you won't hear a whistle or you'll hear the whistle well after the play is done.

Sure nuff. And as I have been trying to tell you folks, that is why we have review. There's no way anyone could say that Wayne's forward progress had stopped unless they had a frickin' surveyor's sight and a mothereffing gyroscope on his balls.

[Joe Fo Sho]

How so? Refs make calls. They blow calls. How is any conclusion more logical than the other?

Determining which event was more likely is a matter of opinion, unless you have some sort of statistics.

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Sure nuff. And as I have been trying to tell you folks, that is why we have review. There's no way anyone could say that Wayne's forward progress had stopped unless they had a frickin' surveyor's sight and a mothereffing gyroscope on his balls.

Except it's not reviewable.

[gebobs]

Determining which event was more likely is a matter of opinion, unless you have some sort of statistics.

The issue was which is most logical. Statistics are not relevant.

Except it's not reviewable.

Bold assertion. You don't have anything to back it up, but bold nonetheless.

[Joe Fo Sho]

The issue was which is most logical. Statistics are not relevant.

What? Determining if something is logical doesn't involve statistics?

Bold assertion. You don't have anything to back it up, but bold nonetheless.

I'm actually the only one citing rules and links. You have nothing backing up your argument.


I just realized how little I actually care about whether you understand this rule. Think whatever you want, enjoy the world you live in.

[gebobs]

What? Determining if something is logical doesn't involve statistics?

Not at all. All logic requires is a solid premise or chain of premises to make a conclusion. It can have infinitesimal probability and still be logical.

I'm actually the only one citing rules and links. You have nothing backing up your argument.

Speaking of logic...

Premise: The officials made the call that Wayne's progress was stopped.
Conclusion: Not reviewable.

So in order to judge whether that logic is valid, we need to examine that premise. That is why I asked you if you had evidence that this was the case. You don't. That doesn't make you wrong and it doesn't make me right. It doesn't make it logical either.

I just realized how little I actually care about whether you understand this rule. Think whatever you want, enjoy the world you live in.

I understand it just fine. I don't think he was down. I don't think his forward progress was stopped. I don't think any official signaled that it was stopped. I don't think anyone could possibly react that quickly to do so or even make a reliable subsequent judgement afterward without the aid of review.

That's why we have review.

You: But it's not reviewable.

And the cycle continues.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Not at all. All logic requires is a solid premise or chain of premises to make a conclusion. It can have infinitesimal probability and still be logical.

Speaking of logic...

Premise: The officials made the call that Wayne's progress was stopped.
Conclusion: Not reviewable.

So in order to judge whether that logic is valid, we need to examine that premise. That is why I asked you if you had evidence that this was the case. You don't. That doesn't make you wrong and it doesn't make me right. It doesn't make it logical either.


I understand it just fine. I don't think he was down. I don't think his forward progress was stopped. I don't think any official signaled that it was stopped. I don't think anyone could possibly react that quickly to do so or even make a reliable subsequent judgement afterward without the aid of review.

That's why we have review.

You: But it's not reviewable.

And the cycle continues.

Fair enough. I personally don't think he was down, or should've been ruled down. My only argument is that they ruled him down by forward progress, and IF that was the case, it is not reviewable and the refs did the right thing. Ruling someone down by forward progress is obviously a judgement call, where the ref may judge differently than you or I...especially when you have to think so quickly with the speed of today's NFL.

I think one way, you all think differently. That's far from the first time that's happened, and won't be the last.

[gebobs]

Fair enough. I personally don't think he was down, or should've been ruled down. My only argument is that they ruled him down by forward progress, and IF that was the case, it is not reviewable and the refs did the right thing. Ruling someone down by forward progress is obviously a judgement call, where the ref may judge differently than you or I...especially when you have to think so quickly with the speed of today's NFL.

No doubt. My biggest beef with this is the lack of communication. The refs have microphones. As you rightly corrected me, there was a timeout called. The refs should explain to the fans their ruling. If the head ref would have taken 10 seconds to press that little button on his fat ass and said, "The ruling on the field is that forward progress was stopped before the ball came loose", I would have smacked my head and thrown up my arms in disgust. But that would be have been that. A blown call in my opinion but refs blow calls all the time.

I think one way, you all think differently. That's far from the first time that's happened, and won't be the last.

I disagree. ;-)

[Joe Fo Sho]

No doubt. My biggest beef with this is the lack of communication. The refs have microphones. As you rightly corrected me, there was a timeout called. The refs should explain to the fans their ruling. If the head ref would have taken 10 seconds to press that little button on his fat ass and said, "The ruling on the field is that forward progress was stopped before the ball came loose", I would have smacked my head and thrown up my arms in disgust. But that would be have been that. A blown call in my opinion but refs blow calls all the time.


I disagree. ;-)

Well I absolutely agree that the communication was lacking. That happens all the time to us, since we play the Pats twice a year.

Party on Wayne.

[gebobs]

Well I absolutely agree that the communication was lacking. That happens all the time to us, since we play the Pats twice a year.

Look who's talking conspiracy now! ;-)

Party on Wayne.

Party on, Garth.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Look who's talking conspiracy now! ;-)


Party on, Garth.

Haha. Everyone knows about the Pats conspiracy, that's **** is a fact.

[gebobs]

Haha. Everyone knows about the Pats conspiracy, that's **** is a fact.

One of my favorites was the unconscious guy recovering the fumble.

[Joe Fo Sho]

One of my favorites was the unconscious guy recovering the fumble.

Patten couldn’t comment on the call. Carpenter’s hit knocked him unconscious.


“I didn’t know where I was. I could have been in Czechoslovakia,” Patten said. “I thought I let the team down, but the replay was one thing that went our way.”

http://www.trendingbuffalo.com/5-mos...-in-brady-era/


I don't recommend clicking the link, unless you're a gluten for punishment.

[Mr. Pink]

One of my favorites was the unconscious guy recovering the fumble.

Which was also the correct call. Sucks that it happened against us but it was the right call.

If part of your body is out of bounds and then comes into contact with the ball, the ball is out of bounds and the play is dead.

They were reviewing the Alfred Morris fumble last night for this exact situation actually.

[gebobs]

Which was also the correct call. Sucks that it happened against us but it was the right call.

Look, if you're going to take the Patriots side, why doncha just go over to Beantown and suck Brady's knob. ;-)

I just know the anti-Bills cabal was freaking out on that play. I imagine a throng of paralegals thumbing through the rule book looking for that loophole (remember the move The Verdict) and one of them rushes over to the replay official, "I got it! Marbury v. Madison, 1803".

Patriots ball.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Which was also the correct call. Sucks that it happened against us but it was the right call.

If part of your body is out of bounds and then comes into contact with the ball, the ball is out of bounds and the play is dead.

They were reviewing the Alfred Morris fumble last night for this exact situation actually.

When did they blow the whistle?

[Mr. Pink]

When did they blow the whistle?

When the players were fighting after the scrum is the only time I noticed a whistle blown.