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  • DraftBoy
    Administrator
    • Jul 2002
    • 107452

    #16
    Re: nfl u pathetic ****s

    Originally posted by HurkeyNuts View Post
    Wrong, blowing the whistle, means they blowing the play dead which means, the play is over.
    The whistle is actually just a notification to the players to stop. If the referee has determined the play is over earlier than that's how he will spot the ball.
    COMING SOON...
    Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
    We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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    • Joe Fo Sho
      Making Spirits Bright
      • Mar 2006
      • 6194

      #17
      Re: nfl u pathetic ****s

      Originally posted by HurkeyNuts View Post
      Wrong, blowing the whistle, means they blowing the play dead which means, the play is over.
      Haha.

      When there is a questionable call to end a play, the refs now let the play continue and don't blow it dead. Then they huddle up and make a ruling on the play afterwards. You're wrong.

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      • Typ0
        honey pie
        • Jul 2002
        • 32592

        #18
        Re: nfl u pathetic ****s

        Originally posted by HurkeyNuts View Post
        Wrong, blowing the whistle, means they blowing the play dead which means, the play is over.
        That is why they hesitate to blow the whistle...because people stop playing when the whistle blows and if a reviewable situation arises the whistle will influence the outcome.

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        • gebobs
          One Bills Drive, Georgia - 871 miles south of Orchard Park
          • Sep 2003
          • 11520

          #19
          Re: nfl u pathetic ****s

          Originally posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
          Then they huddle up and make a ruling on the play afterwards.
          Which, of course, they didn't do. Blown call.

          No big deal in the big picture. As usual, the only side complaining about officiating after the game are the losers. Calls generally even out...unless the Cheatriots are one of the teams. ;-)

          In the end, one field goal should not have made a difference. If the Bills had a decent quarterback and a competent coach, they would have won the game regardless.

          They don't. So that's why we talk about these calls every week.
          Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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          • Joe Fo Sho
            Making Spirits Bright
            • Mar 2006
            • 6194

            #20
            Re: nfl u pathetic ****s

            Originally posted by gebobs View Post
            Which, of course, they didn't do. Blown call.
            They didn't huddle up afterwards because they didn't have to. The ref closest to the play ruled that his progress had stopped. None of the other refs disagreed, so that was the ruling.

            But yes, I agree that the Bills are in such a sad state that this is what we are left to talk about week in and week out...it's pathetic.

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            • Joe Fo Sho
              Making Spirits Bright
              • Mar 2006
              • 6194

              #21
              Re: nfl u pathetic ****s

              One thing we should all agree on is that Byrd is our best defensive player by far and probably the only playmaker we have on defense. We can't afford to let him go after this season.

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              • better days
                Registered User
                • Jan 2010
                • 22028

                #22
                Re: nfl u pathetic ****s

                Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
                The whistle is actually just a notification to the players to stop. If the referee has determined the play is over earlier than that's how he will spot the ball.
                My understanding is the play is live until the whistle blows. Hence the term "play until you hear the whistle." If that is not the case, please tell us the rule # & what the rule says exactly.

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                • better days
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 22028

                  #23
                  Re: nfl u pathetic ****s

                  Originally posted by Typ0 View Post
                  That is why they hesitate to blow the whistle...because people stop playing when the whistle blows and if a reviewable situation arises the whistle will influence the outcome.
                  This is nonsense. For years, players have been told to play until you hear the whistle. After the whistle blows, the play can & in a case like this was SHOULD be reviewed.

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                  • gebobs
                    One Bills Drive, Georgia - 871 miles south of Orchard Park
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 11520

                    #24
                    Re: nfl u pathetic ****s

                    Originally posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
                    They didn't huddle up afterwards because they didn't have to. The ref closest to the play ruled that his progress had stopped. None of the other refs disagreed, so that was the ruling.
                    Like I said, blown call. He lost possession of the ball before forward progress had stopped. Heck, a few years ago, wasn't it the Patriots that were ripping the ball out of the hands of one of the Bills as he was being driven backwards. Wayne was still pushing forward. Blown call.
                    Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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                    • Joe Fo Sho
                      Making Spirits Bright
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 6194

                      #25
                      Re: nfl u pathetic ****s

                      Originally posted by gebobs View Post
                      Like I said, blown call. He lost possession of the ball before forward progress had stopped. Heck, a few years ago, wasn't it the Patriots that were ripping the ball out of the hands of one of the Bills as he was being driven backwards. Wayne was still pushing forward. Blown call.
                      Oh, well I guess I wasn't understanding your argument. Yeah, blown call fine. The way it was called though, they can't review it. That's all I'm saying.

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                      • Joe Fo Sho
                        Making Spirits Bright
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 6194

                        #26
                        Re: nfl u pathetic ****s

                        Originally posted by better days View Post
                        My understanding is the play is live until the whistle blows. Hence the term "play until you hear the whistle." If that is not the case, please tell us the rule # & what the rule says exactly.
                        Section 2 Dead Ball
                        Article 1: Dead Ball Declared. An official shall declare the ball dead and the down ended:
                        (a) when a runner is contacted by a defensive player and touches the ground with any part of his body other than his
                        hands or feet. The ball is dead the instant the runner touches the ground. A runner touching the ground with his
                        hands or feet while in the grasp of an opponent may continue to advance; or
                        Note: If, after defensive contact, any part of a runner’s leg above the ankle or any part of his arm above the wrist touches the
                        ground, the runner is down.
                        (b) when a runner is held or otherwise restrained so that his forward progress ends; or


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                        • better days
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 22028

                          #27
                          Re: nfl u pathetic ****s

                          Originally posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
                          Section 2 Dead Ball
                          Article 1: Dead Ball Declared. An official shall declare the ball dead and the down ended:
                          (a) when a runner is contacted by a defensive player and touches the ground with any part of his body other than his
                          hands or feet. The ball is dead the instant the runner touches the ground. A runner touching the ground with his
                          hands or feet while in the grasp of an opponent may continue to advance; or
                          Note: If, after defensive contact, any part of a runner’s leg above the ankle or any part of his arm above the wrist touches the
                          ground, the runner is down.
                          (b) when a runner is held or otherwise restrained so that his forward progress ends; or


                          http://static.nfl.com/static/content...all_Scrimm.pdf
                          Well, there you go, the play was not dead & should have been reviewed.

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                          • Joe Fo Sho
                            Making Spirits Bright
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 6194

                            #28
                            Re: nfl u pathetic ****s

                            Originally posted by better days View Post
                            Well, there you go, the play was not dead & should have been reviewed.
                            Well the point is that a whistle doesn't have to be blown in order to rule a player down. Whether it's a blown call or not...whatever. Since he was ruled down by forward progress, it is not reviewable.

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                            • better days
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 22028

                              #29
                              Re: nfl u pathetic ****s

                              Originally posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
                              Well the point is that a whistle doesn't have to be blown in order to rule a player down. Whether it's a blown call or not...whatever. Since he was ruled down by forward progress, it is not reviewable.
                              No, the play was still LIVE. Should have been reviewed. If the officials thought his progress was stopped, the whistle should have been blown at that time.

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                              • gebobs
                                One Bills Drive, Georgia - 871 miles south of Orchard Park
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 11520

                                #30
                                Re: nfl u pathetic ****s

                                Originally posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
                                Well the point is that a whistle doesn't have to be blown in order to rule a player down. Whether it's a blown call or not...whatever. Since he was ruled down by forward progress, it is not reviewable.
                                Who's to say when the official ruled him down by forward progress? Do you have some video of this? Heck, the officiating crew would have to the peripheral vision of a hammerhead and Jehovah frickin' omniscience to declare outright that the ball came out an instant after some dope made a signal. The wrong signal.
                                Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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