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You are WRONG. Otherwise why would refs not blow the whistle as you said in post #37? Upon further review, does anyone have any doubt that if the same situation occurred with the Pats* on defense that the play would be reviewed & the Pats* given the ball?
You are WRONG. Otherwise why would refs not blow the whistle as you said in post #37? Upon further review, does anyone have any doubt that if the same situation occurred with the Pats* on defense that the play would be reviewed & the Pats* given the ball?
A referee can let the play continue on, especially in the case of a fumble, and then go back and make a decision on whether or not the fumble was legit. They started doing this recently after too many cases of real fumbles were ruled no fumbles because the refs blew their whistle.
My mistake your post was #36. READ IT, you have contradicted yourself. The reason Refs don't want to blow the whistle too soon is that the play is then dead & fumbles can't be reviewed. Until the whistle blows, plays are LIVE.
My mistake your post was #36. READ IT, you have contradicted yourself. The reason Refs don't want to blow the whistle too soon is that the play is then dead & fumbles can't be reviewed. Until the whistle blows, plays are LIVE.
Right, but after such a play they can rule that the play was ended before the questionable event happened. If they do that, and they rule that his forward progress was stopped, nothing else matters...he's down and you can't review it.
The whistle ends a play, but a play is not always ended by a whistle.
They made a bad call, at least in my mind, but the way they handled the call that was made was correct.
Right, but after such a play they can rule that the play was ended before the questionable event happened. If they do that, and they rule that his forward progress was stopped, nothing else matters...he's down and you can't review it.
And as far as anyone knows, they didn't. And if they did, they were wrong. If they did, it was a significant lapse of judgement. There's no way anyone could even claim that they are capable of making that call.
They made a bad call, at least in my mind, but the way they handled the call that was made was correct.
No it wasn't. They should have gone to review. That much is clear.
And as far as anyone knows, they didn't. And if they did, they were wrong. If they did, it was a significant lapse of judgement. There's no way anyone could even claim that they are capable of making that call.
No it wasn't. They should have gone to review. That much is clear.
I'm not trying to argue with you guys, just stating my thoughts. What was the exact call on the field? Was it that his forward progress was stopped? That's what I'm under the impression was called. If that's the call, it's not reviewable.
I'm not trying to argue with you guys, just stating my thoughts. What was the exact call on the field? Was it that his forward progress was stopped? That's what I'm under the impression was called. If that's the call, it's not reviewable.
As I said before when forward progress is stopped, the ref that determines that is required to blow his whistle. Until the whistle is blown, the play is LIVE & reviewable.
As I said before when forward progress is stopped, the ref that determines that is required to blow his whistle. Until the whistle is blown, the play is LIVE & reviewable.
Like I asked before, how many seconds does the ref have to blow the whistle after he determines that forward progress has stopped?
Why does that matter? The play is LIVE until the whistle is blown whenever it happens.
I thought when a players knee was down after being contacted by a defender then the play is over. You mean it's not over until the whistle blows? He can keep rolling forward to pick up extra yards until the ref blows his whistle?
I'm not trying to argue with you guys, just stating my thoughts. What was the exact call on the field? Was it that his forward progress was stopped? That's what I'm under the impression was called. If that's the call, it's not reviewable.
Even if they did call forward progress stopped, how the heck do they know the ball came out after they did and not before? They don't. They couldn't. Not possible. That's one of the reasons WHY you have review.
Even if they did call forward progress stopped, how the heck do they know the ball came out after they did and not before? They don't. They couldn't. Not possible. That's one of the reasons WHY you have review.
They don't know for sure, they absolutely don't know. It SHOULD be a reviewable play...but by NFL rules, it is not.
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