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  • ICRockets
    Childish Fake Voter
    • Jul 2008
    • 12676

    #61
    Re: Time to blow this team up

    There is a scenario where we end up with the perfect offseason. Say we hire Chip Kelly as head coach, Rex Ryan as DC, draft Manti Te'o in the first round, and draft someone like Landry Jones or Tyler Wilson in the 2nd round, we're ready to make a run in 2014 with a GREAT team.

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    • JoeMama
      Emotion Sickness
      • Oct 2002
      • 18183

      #62
      Re: Time to blow this team up

      Originally posted by FunTimesYaY! View Post
      We are miles away from teams like the Texans, Patriots, Bears, Saints and Niners.

      Yes, on any given Sunday you could win, true. However we'd lose to any of those teams 95 times out of 100 the way we all stand right now.

      There's a huge talent gap between us and them as well as just as huge of a coaching gap.
      I completely disagree.

      I bet if Wade Phillips was our DC, our defense would be a hell of a lot better.

      There IS talent on this team.

      We should be better.
      Disclaimer: The sentiment expressed in this post is strictly for entertainment purposes only.

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      • Mr. Pink
        Peterman Sucks!
        • Mar 2006
        • 35303

        #63
        Re: Time to blow this team up

        Originally posted by JoeMama View Post
        I completely disagree.

        I bet if Wade Phillips was our DC, our defense would be a hell of a lot better.

        There IS talent on this team.

        We should be better.
        With better coaching, we would be better...but what is that better exactly?

        Defensively, we've actually played fairly well the past 2 weeks. Offensively we've crapped the bed.

        Overall though regardless of coach we have no LBs, uninspired DL play and a weak secondary outside of Byrd. So are we talking 30th defense to 25th with a better coach and scheme?

        I do think with better offensive coaching and play calling, regardless of the fact that our QB is complete garbage, we're a 6-5 football team instead of 4-7. And with the way our schedule has played out and how the AFC has shaken out this year besides the top, we'd have an outside shot at being the 6th seed to get blown out by the 3rd seed in all likelihood.

        I guess basically what I'm saying is instead of being a bottom dweller team we'd be somewhere in the middle of the pack which is still a talent gap between us and the teams I aforementioned.

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        • kingJofNYC
          Registered User
          • Sep 2009
          • 5960

          #64
          Re: Time to blow this team up

          Chip Kelly can have any job he wants, Buffalo is probably dead last on his list. Couldn't even get Shanahan, think about that.

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          • Mr. Pink
            Peterman Sucks!
            • Mar 2006
            • 35303

            #65
            Re: Time to blow this team up

            Originally posted by kingJofNYC View Post
            Chip Kelly can have any job he wants, Buffalo is probably dead last on his list. Couldn't even get Shanahan, think about that.
            I want Trestman! I know we had some interest in him last go round and it didn't work out but I can still dream.

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            • JoeMama
              Emotion Sickness
              • Oct 2002
              • 18183

              #66
              Re: Time to blow this team up

              Originally posted by FunTimesYaY! View Post
              With better coaching, we would be better...but what is that better exactly?

              Defensively, we've actually played fairly well the past 2 weeks. Offensively we've crapped the bed.

              Overall though regardless of coach we have no LBs, uninspired DL play and a weak secondary outside of Byrd. So are we talking 30th defense to 25th with a better coach and scheme?

              I do think with better offensive coaching and play calling, regardless of the fact that our QB is complete garbage, we're a 6-5 football team instead of 4-7. And with the way our schedule has played out and how the AFC has shaken out this year besides the top, we'd have an outside shot at being the 6th seed to get blown out by the 3rd seed in all likelihood.

              I guess basically what I'm saying is instead of being a bottom dweller team we'd be somewhere in the middle of the pack which is still a talent gap between us and the teams I aforementioned.
              Look what Mike Smith did in Atlanta, John Harbaugh did in Baltimore, Jim Harbaugh did in San Francisco, etc etc. IN THEIR FIRST YEARS.

              Sometimes all it takes is a little coaching and you can transform a team with "no talent" into a winner.

              Chan Gailey is historically bad. I would say easily worse than Dick Jauron.

              Keep in mind, this is year three of Gailey's tenure. It's supposed to be his winning year. Instead we're as bad as when we started.

              All because of one awful coach.
              Disclaimer: The sentiment expressed in this post is strictly for entertainment purposes only.

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              • Mr. Pink
                Peterman Sucks!
                • Mar 2006
                • 35303

                #67
                Re: Time to blow this team up

                Originally posted by JoeMama View Post
                Look what Mike Smith did in Atlanta, John Harbaugh did in Baltimore, Jim Harbaugh did in San Francisco, etc etc.

                Sometimes all it takes is a little coaching and you can transform a team with "no talent" into a winner.

                Chan Gailey is historically bad. I would say easily worse than Dick Jauron.
                I think Atlanta and San Fran are more talented than us and were more talented than us before they got their two new coaches. Matt Ryan and Patrick Willis respectively.

                I do agree on your last statement. I actually think we're a 6-5 team right now if Jauron was still the HC based on how he handled the offense with Losman here, he'd do the same thing now with Fitz and hide him as much as possible and ride our strong rushing attack.

                Which shouldn't be that hard to figure out for any legitimate HC. Since it's glaringly obvious the strength of this offense/team is the rushing attack.

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                • casdhf
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 17542

                  #68
                  Re: Time to blow this team up

                  We need heart and leadership. No one looks like they give a **** out there.
                  Originally posted by BillsZone Mod
                  cas,

                  I'm just letting you know that you have been given 2 points for telling Wys AKA Mark to kill himself.

                  BillsZone Mod

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                  • Johnny Bugmenot
                    Will not tolerate vandalism.
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 4311

                    #69
                    Re: Time to blow this team up

                    The situation is irreparable at this point. Send the team to LA and let them fix this mess.

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                    • BertSquirtgum
                      Registered User
                      • May 2009
                      • 13379

                      #70
                      Re: Time to blow this team up

                      Originally posted by X-Era View Post
                      Personally, I have no interest in a full rebuild. But I do want a legit QB to be found in the off-season. Plus a new DC, ILB, and OLB.
                      You forgot new head coach.

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                      • BuffaloWingEater
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 496

                        #71
                        Re: Time to blow this team up

                        Originally posted by JoeMama View Post
                        I completely disagree.

                        I bet if Wade Phillips was our DC, our defense would be a hell of a lot better.

                        There IS talent on this team.

                        We should be better.
                        how about perry fewell

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                        • BertSquirtgum
                          Registered User
                          • May 2009
                          • 13379

                          #72
                          Re: Time to blow this team up

                          Originally posted by Johnny Bugmenot View Post
                          The situation is irreparable at this point. Send the team to LA and let them fix this mess.
                          Run into a highway.

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                          • OpIv37
                            Acid Douching Asswipe
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 101230

                            #73
                            Re: Time to blow this team up

                            Originally posted by HAMMER View Post
                            No need to blow it up, you can't keep starting over. It is time to find a QB though.
                            No one wants to start over, but we have to. Here's the problem: when you build everything wrong from the beginning, it will always be wrong. You could give this FO and coaching staff 50 years and they will never win. They are simply incompetent.

                            And yes, we definitely need a QB. But unfortunately, this team's problems go far beyond QB. We've been loading up on D in the draft and spent $100 million on the best defensive FA available, but the D still sucks. We gave up ST touchdowns in consecutive weeks.

                            This team is a disaster on an almost incomprehensible level. A better QB would definitely help, but even with a real QB, the team won't win with the D and ST sucking.
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                            • BertSquirtgum
                              Registered User
                              • May 2009
                              • 13379

                              #74
                              Re: Time to blow this team up

                              Originally posted by Beebe's Kid
                              Quit whining. You are a pussy.

                              XOXO,

                              BBK
                              I will still be at every remaining game this year while you are home typing up short stories.
                              Last edited by BertSquirtgum; 11-25-2012, 11:30 PM.

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                              • Night Train
                                Retired - On Several Levels
                                • Jul 2005
                                • 33117

                                #75
                                Re: Time to blow this team up

                                David Shaw of Stanford looks like he's done even a better job at Stanford than Harbaugh. His D looks good. O playcalling is excellent. Resembles an NFL team. Tough and physical. Smart. Being black may help the players respond to him. Luck loved the guy.
                                Father was a long time NFL asst. coach. He's had a couple stnts as an asst. in the NFL, so he knows what is expected. If Nix retires and Whaley takes over, I could see the attraction and it's justified. Far better option than the gadget driven unknown in Chip Kelly. Call Shaw and let him bring his staff.
                                Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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