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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    And what about the issues with a general lack of depth, the issues with our other starting CB, the developing issue at RT and that doesn't begin to talk about the potential changes that will be needed with a new scheme being brought in by a new coaching staff.
    I wasn't proposing a new staff. A new DC, yes. But, I think Gailey should find a guy who will still run a 4-3 so we don't need to change out all those players to fit the new scheme.

    Lack of depth is always an issue, I agree. I want that to come from the draft and free agency as always. I'm not as worried about RT personally, Hairston has played well often enough for me although his recent streak of questionable play is worrying. As far as the other starting CB spot, it's got to be solidified I agree. Could it be through resigning McLovin? Could it still be Aaron Williams? Could it be a free agent? Maybe. I personally would rather see our 1st rounder spent elsewhere but I could see an argument for CB.


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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    To rub salt... Whither just returned an INT for a TD.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Era View Post
    I wasn't proposing a new staff. A new DC, yes. But, I think Gailey should find a guy who will still run a 4-3 so we don't need to change out all those players to fit the new scheme.

    Lack of depth is always an issue, I agree. I want that to come from the draft and free agency as always. I'm not as worried about RT personally, Hairston has played well often enough for me although his recent streak of questionable play is worrying. As far as the other starting CB spot, it's got to be solidified I agree. Could it be through resigning McLovin? Could it still be Aaron Williams? Could it be a free agent? Maybe. I personally would rather see our 1st rounder spent elsewhere but I could see an argument for CB.
    Again we are sticking with this because its been working so well for us?

    And even a new DC is still going to want his guys to come in.
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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by coastal View Post
    To rub salt... Whither just returned an INT for a TD.
    On a tipped ball which was an absolutely horrible throw by Brees.

    Put George Wilson there and he'd do the same thing.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

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    On a tipped ball which was an absolutely horrible throw by Brees.

    Put George Wilson there and he'd do the same thing.
    Them why doesn't he...

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    You want to keep Gailey around x-era?

    Does the talent even matter with him at the helm? Guy is awful, no amount of talent can cover up his sshortfalls. He had Calvin Johnson and Demaryius Thomas but started Nesbitt, nuff said.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by coastal View Post
    Them why doesn't he...
    Whitner career 8 INTs and 2 TDs now

    Wilson career 12 INTs and 1 TD.

    Guess he does.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

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    Because those basics are working so well for us now?
    Piss-poor coaching will do that.
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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    Again we are sticking with this because its been working so well for us?

    And even a new DC is still going to want his guys to come in.
    Maybe we can lure Dick Jauron back to just DC when Cleveland cleans house in a couple months.

    Then we won't need a bunch of new guys LMAO

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by FunTimesYaY! View Post
    Whitner career 8 INTs and 2 TDs now

    Wilson career 12 INTs and 1 TD.

    Guess he does.
    u missed the point entirely **** for brains.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

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    u missed the point entirely **** for brains.
    You had no point.

    Whitner was a first round bust/bum.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    Piss-poor coaching will do that.
    So will piss-poor execution, do you think we're executing the fundamentals well right now?

    That's not say the coaching isn't bad, because its absolutely pathetic.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Whitner was also responsible for giving up the two tds the saints notched.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by kingJofNYC View Post
    Whitner was also responsible for giving up the two tds the saints notched.
    And on this last play where Whitner was jogging half speed to lend help to the corner on a deep ball to Lance Moore.

    But ya know that dude is great!

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Fire Chan Gailey, cut Ryan Fitzpatrick, draft a franchise QB, and keep the rest of the team together.

    In Buddy Nix's first year, he said there wasn't a huge gap between your best team and your worst team in terms of talent.

    And I believe he's right, to an extent.

    I don't know if Matt Barkley or Gino Smith fit the bill, but it's obvious that Ryan Fitzpatrick is not a starting NFL quarterback. He's pathetic.

    I seriously think Rob Johnson was better.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    So will piss-poor execution, do you think we're executing the fundamentals well right now?

    That's not say the coaching isn't bad, because its absolutely pathetic.
    No, and that once again comes down to coaching.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    its called hire john gruden and give up the farm for matt barkley...

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMama View Post
    Fire Chan Gailey, cut Ryan Fitzpatrick, draft a franchise QB, and keep the rest of the team together.

    In Buddy Nix's first year, he said there wasn't a huge gap between your best team and your worst team in terms of talent.

    And I believe he's right, to an extent.
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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMama View Post
    Fire Chan Gailey, cut Ryan Fitzpatrick, draft a franchise QB, and keep the rest of the team together.

    In Buddy Nix's first year, he said there wasn't a huge gap between your best team and your worst team in terms of talent.

    And I believe he's right, to an extent.

    I don't know if Matt Barkley or Gino Smith fit the bill, but it's obvious that Ryan Fitzpatrick is not a starting NFL quarterback. He's pathetic.

    I seriously think Rob Johnson was better.
    We are miles away from teams like the Texans, Patriots, Bears, Saints and Niners.

    Yes, on any given Sunday you could win, true. However we'd lose to any of those teams 95 times out of 100 the way we all stand right now.

    There's a huge talent gap between us and them as well as just as huge of a coaching gap.

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    Re: Time to blow this team up

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    No, and that once again comes down to coaching.
    So failure of players to do what they've been taught to do their entire lives like blocking, tackling, and covering is also on the coaches? We are talking about breakdowns at the most fundamental levels.

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