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    Re: home of the free land of the brave ..

    I think that if anyone thinks that song is meaningful then I fear for my country.

    For example, Americans won't be free until we admit Republicanism and Christianity are mental disorders, and find a cure for them
    What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof ~ Christopher Hitchens

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    Re: home of the free land of the brave ..

    Quote Originally Posted by MidnightVoice View Post
    I think that if anyone thinks that song is meaningful then I fear for my country.

    For example, Americans won't be free until we admit Republicanism and Christianity are mental disorders, and find a cure for them
    ya know I have been super quite for over a month .. been dealing with some bad daddy issues .. but I think I am about ready to make that change once and for all!
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    Re: home of the free land of the brave ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Sure there is something to discuss..

    So our soldiers were BRAVE because they fought for us, yet we demonize people like the Taliban??

    It was interesting to hear a Germans perspective on this .. he was laughing during our session because we dress our soldiers up to be neat and clean and like they are brave!

    But as I was thinking during his session, HE is the brave one to move away from Germany to come HERE to live. I think that the immigrants that risked everything to come here and live are the brave ones.
    well anyone who puts their life on the line for a cause is brave. In the case of the Taliban, and even in the cases of some of the wars the US has gotten involved in, I don't agree with the motives or the reasons why they are fighting, but it's still brave to go fight.

    And yes, I would say immigrating to a new country is brave.

    But this really has nothing to do with the song- we are simply discussing what constitutes bravery.

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    Re: home of the free land of the brave ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Everything has a meaning .. so what is yours??

    Who do you think is Brave?

    The ones who serve our military??

    Who is free?/ You and Me??
    americans live in the fantasy world where only the US is truly free, and only our military is truly brave. most of the world is free, and every military member in any country is brave. the idea that the US is the only country really standing up for what is right, and that we can and should push our way in anywhere we want, anytime we want, is embarrassing.

    some people believe that the world is the US to use and exploit any way we want, and anyone who thinks differently can be eradicated. its disgusting.

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    Re: home of the free land of the brave ..

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    And yes, I would say immigrating to a new country is brave.
    It gets easier the more practice you have

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    Re: home of the free land of the brave ..

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    well anyone who puts their life on the line for a cause is brave. In the case of the Taliban, and even in the cases of some of the wars the US has gotten involved in, I don't agree with the motives or the reasons why they are fighting, but it's still brave to go fight.

    And yes, I would say immigrating to a new country is brave.
    So it is brave of a person to go into a fight with someone else .. interesting.

    leaving behind all that you know to go to a brand new country .. yes VERY brave!

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    Re: home of the free land of the brave ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    So it is brave of a person to go into a fight with someone else .. interesting.

    leaving behind all that you know to go to a brand new country .. yes VERY brave!
    well if you get into any sort of fight, you are risking physical harm to your body. That's brave. It may not be noble- the reasoning for it may be poor, or it may just be stupidity (ie the average bar fight or gangland shootout). But it's still brave to take on the physical risk.

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    Re: home of the free land of the brave ..

    Discretion is the better part of valor

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    Re: home of the free land of the brave ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    What does home of the free and home of the brave mean to you?

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    Re: home of the free land of the brave ..

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmifli View Post

    A Tea Bagger with tits and a gun!!! Some scary s**t there!!! :)

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    Re: home of the free land of the brave ..

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmifli View Post
    "**** TORNADOES!!!"

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    Re: home of the free land of the brave ..

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMama View Post
    "**** TORNADOES!!!"

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    I always enjoyed connections as a kid. Great way to pass an hour.


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    Re: home of the free land of the brave ..

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmifli View Post
    what is this, and where can i see this?

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    Re: home of the free land of the brave ..

    Quote Originally Posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
    what is this, and where can i see this?
    I figured this is what all 'MURICA looks like.

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    Re: home of the free land of the brave ..

    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    What does home of the free and home of the brave mean to you?
    Nice poetry. Nationalistic bullcrap. Sounds good. Means nothing.
    Gailey's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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    Re: home of the free land of the brave ..

    Quote Originally Posted by gebobs View Post
    Nice poetry. Nationalistic bullcrap. Sounds good. Means nothing.

    You know who else likes poetry? Commies.

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    Re: home of the free land of the brave ..

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmifli View Post

    You know who else likes poetry? Commies.
    Ha...great picture!

    In 1781, we WERE the "home of the free". Quite literally. We fought of the royals of Europe and created something of a democracy. Certainly more democratic than any of the European powers at the time. Not many other people felt more free at that time or ever up to that time.

    But now, that phrase rings less true. "Home of the free"? Heck, there is so much freedom in this world, it's ridiculous. Even the most oppressive societies are slowly becoming less so. Not all of them, but some. Western countries in this era are the most "free" in history.

    "Home of the brave"? Duh...braver than you guys. Stupid. That's like asking someone where they live and they say "Earth".
    Last edited by gebobs; 11-28-2012 at 11:45 PM.

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    Re: home of the free land of the brave ..

    Quote Originally Posted by gebobs View Post
    Ha...great picture!

    In 1781, we WERE the "home of the free". Quite literally. We fought of the royals of Europe and created something of a democracy. Certainly more democratic than any of the European powers at the time. Not many other people felt more free at that time or ever up to that time.

    But now, that phrase rings less true. "Home of the free"? Heck, there is so much freedom in this world, it's ridiculous. Even the most oppressive societies are slowly becoming less so. Not all of them, but some. Western countries in this era are the most "free" in history.

    "Home of the brave"? Duh...braver than you guys. Stupid. That's like asking someone where they live and they say "Earth".
    Land of the Free? is a Pennywise album.

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