Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

[X-Era]

Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

I agree with you on this for the most part, X, but unfortunately for us if Gailey stays one more then Wanny will be here also, especially considering how the defense has started to play the last few weeks.

Both will use the same excuses we are..."But if we can only get a LBer and a QB, we'd make the playoffs for sure next season..."

I don't know that Gailey would be dead set against canning Wanny. But, he may stay, you're right.
Is it possible that the run D issues really were mostly guy properly filling their gaps? I still want LB'ers that can adequately cover the flat and seems. I still want guys that can shed blocks and tackle. Sheppard is horrible. Watch the play at 4:49 in the 2nd to get a glimpse of how bad he is.

[justasportsfan]

Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

My biggest worry is that if the D continues to play better, Nix will make Wanny the HC. However, I'm pretty sure Wanny would want Chan as his OC so in the end, Chan will most likely stay.

[gebobs]

Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

Just talked with a source within the NFL and he told me that he doesn't think Gailey keeps his job following the season and has heard that the Bills are high on Arkansas QB Tyler Wilson.

I hope he's better than another Razorback I remember.

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[justasportsfan]

Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

Can't comment on the Gailey thing, but...Wilson is a VERY highly though of QB prospect among NFL eval guys, fans have him under rated. No doubt Bills are interested, expect him to be a Bills visitor at OBD without a doubt.

Does this mean then that he wont be there before we draft? Tannehill and Ponder come to mind. Someone will reach for him before we can take him.

[gebobs]

Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

Being moderately exposed to SEC football, I should know more about him. The SEC is tough and just glossing over his stats, he seems to have done pretty in the two years he has started. 13 INTs this year though make his junior season the better of the two. Apparently, he had a concussion in the home loss to ULM. Not sure how well he moves in the pocket, but if his rushing stats and 14 sacks are any indication, it might be a concern. On the other hand, he seems to be a fierce competitor and doesn't suffer fools gladly.

Could be had in the 2nd round I think.

[better days]

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I hope he's better than another Razorback I remember.

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It is clear you never saw Fergy play. 4th best Bills QB ever behind Kelly, Kemp & Lamonica.

[gebobs]

Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

It is clear you never saw Fergy play.

Better wipe those glasses. I went to every game that he was in Buffalo up to the point I left for college in '81. I was there for his first game, in preseason, against the Skins where Herb Mul-Key set the tone for the newly opened Rich Stadium by returning the opening kick for a TD.

4th best Bills QB ever behind Kelly, Kemp & Lamonica.

LOL...That's not saying much. Kelly for sure. Kemp...great leader, but a lousy passer. The Bills won despite his shortcomings mainly due to an amazing defense and a diamond-in-the-rough running back.

It's telling that you would list a guy that had only 350 attempts in a Bills uniform as one of the franchise's three best quarterbacks. But let's leave Lamonica out of it. Let's just consider QB's with at least 500 attempts. IMHO...

1. Kelly

Big, huge gap.

2-5. Kemp, Fergie, Flutie, Bledsoe. A case can be made for any of them in any position, but I'll go with Fergie in the top 3.

6-11: Shaw, Collins, Johnson, Losman, Edwards, Fitz.

Ferguson was decent, but he was maddening at times as his career TD/INT ratio should indicate...181/198 with the Bills. He was never a guy you could count on to carry a team. He needed a solid cast around him and even then he always came up short.

Is he better than just about every QB in franchise history? Certainly. But considering the cast of schlubs OBD has paraded out as starters, it's faint praise indeed.

[DraftBoy]

Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

Does this mean then that he wont be there before we draft? Tannehill and Ponder come to mind. Someone will reach for him before we can take him.

As it stands now, I wouldn't not expect him to make it to 11 where we currently sit.

[Slim]

Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

As it stands now, I wouldn't not expect him to make it to 11 where we currently sit.

If the Bills really like a QB, this would be a good year to move up and get their guy.

[JohnnyGold]

Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

Alright we'll play the he'll get us to 8-8 game for talking purposes.

You know what schedule we draw for next season since I outlined it in a different thread.

What do you do with him when the team regresses to 6-10 with that schedule or worse?

the only games that will be different for us in terms of order of finish in the division are:

1 game vs sd, kc or oak

and

1 game vs ind, ten, or jax

i dont like fitz and gailey either, but to not bring them back based on next years schedule is silly

[DraftBoy]

Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

If the Bills really like a QB, this would be a good year to move up and get their guy.

May have to. They have multiple targets though so it will be based on what kind of deal they can get along with the risk/reward.

[Mr. Pink]

Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

the only games that will be different for us in terms of order of finish in the division are:

1 game vs sd, kc or oak

and

1 game vs ind, ten, or jax

i dont like fitz and gailey either, but to not bring them back based on next years schedule is silly

If you get to 8-8 this year and then regress next year, which I guarantee their record will be at best 6-10 with the schedule they'll draw. What basis do you keep the guy around under? The NFL is results league and if you go from 8-8 one year to 6-10 the next year, in year 4 of your rebuilding mode, your rebuilding mode was a failure.

[better days]

Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

If you get to 8-8 this year and then regress next year, which I guarantee their record will be at best 6-10 with the schedule they'll draw. What basis do you keep the guy around under? The NFL is results league and if you go from 8-8 one year to 6-10 the next year, in year 4 of your rebuilding mode, your rebuilding mode was a failure.

Well, if the Bills do go from 8-8 this year to 6-10 next year, then Chan should be fired. But if they get a decent QB & a LB or 2 this off season, the Bills may do better than 6-10.

[BertSquirtgum]

Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

Bills should do whatever they can to get Manti Te'o.

[Mr. Pink]

Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

Well, if the Bills do go from 8-8 this year to 6-10 next year, then Chan should be fired. But if they get a decent QB & a LB or 2 this off season, the Bills may do better than 6-10.

The QB here next year will be either Fitz, Vick or Alex Smith.

Because that's what will be available for us to choose from.