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  • gebobs
    One Bills Drive, Georgia - 871 miles south of Orchard Park
    • Sep 2003
    • 11520

    #76
    Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

    What's this "if next year" shee-ite that "the rebuild will be a failure"? It IS a failure. Is it not painfully obvious what a chump Gailey is?

    One game against a crap team and you guys are already humping the couch again? Who have the Bills beaten this year? They have beaten the last place team in every division in the AFC and the NFC West. Combined record: 17-43.
    Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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    • justasportsfan
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 71579

      #77
      Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

      Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
      As it stands now, I wouldn't not expect him to make it to 11 where we currently sit.
      from the little that I've seen, he has great ball placement inspite of having a crappy OL. Am I right?
      sacrifice1
      https://theinterviewwithgod.com/video/

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      • trapezeus
        Legendary Zoner
        • Oct 2004
        • 19525

        #78
        Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

        i think the OP makes sense given that nix is essentially tired of answering the gailey question. he knows he's doing the PC thing by saying, "we are behind our man. but he also knows his responsibility to field a marketable team. barring a complete miracle, something that hasnt' happened since the 32 point comeback game, we aren't getting to the playoffs.

        I think a guy like Nix, an old-timer, has to hate saying one thing, knowing at the end he'll have to do another. and i think that's probably why he's tired of answering the question.

        But to me, this all seems like a mob hit. They take out nix's man, but nix knows that doesn't mean he's safe. it means he's next if he doesn't get it right. and i do think his intentions are good. and i think he's been a good soldier most of his career and has routinely been passed over as GM. so i genuinely think he wants to win and prove that he deserved the gig.

        firing chan only means the scrutiny on him is increased.

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        • Mr. Pink
          Peterman Sucks!
          • Mar 2006
          • 35303

          #79
          Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

          Originally posted by gebobs View Post
          What's this "if next year" shee-ite that "the rebuild will be a failure"? It IS a failure. Is it not painfully obvious what a chump Gailey is?

          One game against a crap team and you guys are already humping the couch again? Who have the Bills beaten this year? They have beaten the last place team in every division in the AFC and the NFC West. Combined record: 17-43.
          It is a failure and he should be canned now.

          My point is holding him another season is just wasting the season because there's no way you can sell anyone on keeping him in 2014 after you regress in the standings in 2013.

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          • gebobs
            One Bills Drive, Georgia - 871 miles south of Orchard Park
            • Sep 2003
            • 11520

            #80
            Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

            Next season? How are those lease negotiations going?
            Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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            • Oaf
              Do you read what you write?
              • Jun 2007
              • 6151

              #81
              Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

              We still haven't beating a team with a good QB since Tom Brady Week 3 2011.

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              • BertSquirtgum
                Registered User
                • May 2009
                • 13379

                #82
                Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

                Originally posted by gebobs View Post
                Next season? How are those lease negotiations going?
                They already have an extension for next year.

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                • gebobs
                  One Bills Drive, Georgia - 871 miles south of Orchard Park
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 11520

                  #83
                  Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

                  Originally posted by HurkeyNuts View Post
                  They already have an extension for next year.
                  I'm not talking about the current lease or any measly one year extension of it. I'm talking about the negotiations for a new lease.

                  Nonetheless, I haven't seen anything that says it has been signed, have you? All I have seen is that they have "agreed in principle" to the extension.
                  Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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                  • jimbohastle51
                    All-Pro Zoner
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 1823

                    #84
                    Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

                    Tyler Wilson is going to be one of, if not the top QB after the combine and work outs are completed. The boy has skills. Is he a top 5 pick? Not in my opinion, but does he have a lot of potential? Definitely.

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                    • Albany,n.y.
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 5599

                      #85
                      Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

                      Here's the problem: Every year around Nov/Dec fans start talking up a can't miss QB. Then the guy shoots up the draft boards & we win a meaningless game or 2 taking us out of any chance of getting him. That or the guy is already going to be a pick that is too high for us to get near. So while we're winning our 6 or 7 games other teams are losing the games in December that ace us out of these guys. It's been happening since Pittsburgh had a bad enough year to get Roethlisberger & we ended up with JP.

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                      • The Jokeman
                        Registered User
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 9995

                        #86
                        Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

                        Originally posted by better days View Post
                        It is clear you never saw Fergy play. 4th best Bills QB ever behind Kelly, Kemp & Lamonica.
                        and what's really sad is Fergy was the only QB the Bills ever developed. Kelly deveoled in the USFL, Kemp with the Chargers and Lamonica did so with the Raiders.

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                        • better days
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 22028

                          #87
                          Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

                          Originally posted by The Jokeman View Post
                          and what's really sad is Fergy was the only QB the Bills ever developed. Kelly deveoled in the USFL, Kemp with the Chargers and Lamonica did so with the Raiders.
                          Lamonica was developed by the Bills. He came in & won a number of games as a Bill. He was fully developed when he went to Oakland in probably the worst trade in Bills history.

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                          • GingerP
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 1717

                            #88
                            Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

                            Originally posted by better days View Post
                            Lamonica was developed by the Bills. He came in & won a number of games as a Bill. He was fully developed when he went to Oakland in probably the worst trade in Bills history.
                            Lamonica was a backup to Kemp his entire career on the Bills, and it is hard to fault them for trading him at the time. He only started 4 games in 4 seasons, and he was a much better player after being traded to Oakland.

                            His career numbers with the Bills:

                            150/353 (42.5%), 2,499 Yds (7.1 YPA), 16 TD, 23 Int, 55.0 QB Rating

                            His career numbers with the Oakland:

                            1,135/2,239 (50.7%), 16,620 Yds (7.4 YPA), 147 TD, 111 Int, 76.5 QB Rating

                            In hindsight, they should have kept Lamonica and moved on from Kemp, but at that time the trade made more sense.

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                            • gebobs
                              One Bills Drive, Georgia - 871 miles south of Orchard Park
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 11520

                              #89
                              Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

                              Originally posted by GingerP View Post
                              Lamonica was a backup to Kemp his entire career on the Bills, and it is hard to fault them for trading him at the time. He only started 4 games in 4 seasons, and he was a much better player after being traded to Oakland.

                              His career numbers with the Bills:

                              150/353 (42.5%), 2,499 Yds (7.1 YPA), 16 TD, 23 Int, 55.0 QB Rating

                              His career numbers with the Oakland:

                              1,135/2,239 (50.7%), 16,620 Yds (7.4 YPA), 147 TD, 111 Int, 76.5 QB Rating

                              In hindsight, they should have kept Lamonica and moved on from Kemp, but at that time the trade made more sense.
                              Lolwhut? How did the trade make sense? Who trades away the QB their grooming to replace the aging starter? It was the most boneheaded trade in franchise history and everyone knew the second it was made that Davis had taken Wilson out to the woodshed on that one.

                              Lamonica was 26 and entering the prime of his career. Flores was 30 at the time of the trade and out of football two seasons later. Kemp was 32 and missed the entire following season with an injury. As a result, the Bills were forced to start, Rutkowski, a frickin' receiver, at QB.

                              If only Wilson owned the Patriots. He would have kept Bledsoe and traded his backup to us. That would have made sense at the time.
                              Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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                              • better days
                                Registered User
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 22028

                                #90
                                Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

                                Originally posted by GingerP View Post
                                Lamonica was a backup to Kemp his entire career on the Bills, and it is hard to fault them for trading him at the time. He only started 4 games in 4 seasons, and he was a much better player after being traded to Oakland.

                                His career numbers with the Bills:

                                150/353 (42.5%), 2,499 Yds (7.1 YPA), 16 TD, 23 Int, 55.0 QB Rating

                                His career numbers with the Oakland:

                                1,135/2,239 (50.7%), 16,620 Yds (7.4 YPA), 147 TD, 111 Int, 76.5 QB Rating

                                In hindsight, they should have kept Lamonica and moved on from Kemp, but at that time the trade made more sense.
                                Wrong. Of course Lamonicas numbers were better with Oakland than his numbers in Buffalo, he was a STARTER in Oakland. At the time of the trade, Lamonica was a fully developed rising star. Kemp was OLD & losing it. That trade made no sense at all, Buffalo gave up a young QB with probowl potential & acquired a couple OLD over the hill players in return.

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