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  • tampabay25690
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    • Feb 2004
    • 9670

    #16
    Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

    T-Long I trust what you say. You are one of the few I actually do.
    Makes a ton of sense in my book. I can't see how the Bills will keep Gailey after this season.
    The interesting thing will be who is the next coach?

    I really like Tyler Wilson a lot, I think the Arkansas situation was just a mess this year. They were a top 10 team going in. The I'd can throw the rock no doubt and I luv his attitude..... Sort of Cutler like....
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    • kishoph
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      • Jun 2003
      • 3157

      #17
      Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

      Originally posted by tampabay25690 View Post
      T-Long I trust what you say. You are one of the few I actually do.
      Makes a ton of sense in my book. I can't see how the Bills will keep Gailey after this season.
      The interesting thing will be who is the next coach?

      I really like Tyler Wilson a lot, I think the Arkansas situation was just a mess this year. They were a top 10 team going in. The I'd can throw the rock no doubt and I luv his attitude..... Sort of Cutler like....
      I was just about to post just about everything you've said. I've know T-Long a long time and while he's no Pat Moran (j/k), I've never known him to post BS and it all does make sense. Nix has a team that can win, but there's two major flaws, QB and coach. Retaining Gailey would kill a lot of fan support and it goes the same for Fitz.
      I've been high on Tyler Wilson since the season started, he's big, tough and has a strong arm, he has the physical tools and his faults can be corrected with coaching and patience. Some rankings have him ahead of Barkley and just behind Smith. He will not last to the 2nd round and while a stud LB sounds good, this team needs a QB that can put points on the board, a top 5 or 10 defense doesn't do any good if you can't score, look at Arizona. This is not the 80's you need an offense to win.
      Last edited by kishoph; 12-02-2012, 06:22 AM.

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      • Extremebillsfan247
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        • Sep 2008
        • 3142

        #18
        Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

        Originally posted by T-Long View Post
        Just talked with a source within the NFL and he told me that he doesn't think Gailey keeps his job following the season and has heard that the Bills are high on Arkansas QB Tyler Wilson.
        I think Gailey does keep his job as long as Nix keeps his, and I've heard they really like E.J. Manuel of Florida St. I'm not certain that they draft a QB earlier than the 2nd round though. It depends strongly on who they have graded highest regardless of position on their draft board when they pick in the first round. They have been pretty consistent in that respect since Nix took over as GM. JMO

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        • coastal
          Legendary Zoner
          • Mar 2005
          • 15513

          #19
          Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

          Originally posted by T-Long View Post
          He is under the impression that Nix stays but Gailey will go barring a 4-1 or 5-0 finish. Ralph trusts Nix but also knows how bad for business keeping Gailey will be.
          This more than anything screams of being true.

          Ralph doesn't approach things in terms of what is good for the football organization.

          He also historically only does just enough to keep the horde buying tickets.

          and we lap it up... year after year. Just look at this thread. Some are already wondering about our next coach and what QB were going to draft.

          Until Bills fans smarten up... we'll get the team we deserve.

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          • YardRat
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            • Dec 2004
            • 86145

            #20
            Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

            Originally posted by kishoph View Post
            I was just about to post just about everything you've said. I've know T-Long a long time and while he's no Pat Moran (j/k), I've never known him to post BS and it all does make sense. Nix has a team that can win, but there's two major flaws, QB and coach. Retaining Gailey would kill a lot of fan support and it goes the same for Fitz.
            I've been high on Tyler Wilson since the season started, he's big, tough and has a strong arm, he has the physical tools and his faults can be corrected with coaching and patience. Some rankings have him ahead of Barkley and just behind Smith. He will not last to the 2nd round and while a stud LB sounds good, this team needs a QB that can put points on the board, a top 5 or 10 defense doesn't do any good if you can't score, look at Arizona. This is not the 80's you need an offense to win.
            I'd prefer taking Te'o if he's there then trading back into the first for a QB if necessary.
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            • notacon
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              • Aug 2012
              • 32991

              #21
              Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

              Originally posted by ghz in pittsburgh View Post
              I still don't believe you reach for a QB. Just remember picking a wrong guy is worse than not picking one.

              .
              100% nonsense!!!

              - - - Updated - - -

              Originally posted by ghz in pittsburgh View Post
              For short term gain, even possibly going to the playoff next year, you keep Gailey.
              1000% NONSENSE!!!

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              • Extremebillsfan247
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                • Sep 2008
                • 3142

                #22
                Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

                Originally posted by ghz in pittsburgh View Post
                I still don't believe you reach for a QB. Just remember picking a wrong guy is worse than not picking one.

                I really believe Nix went the safe route not picking a development QB, and I believe it's about to change this time around. But if there is a almost sure fire MLB in the 1st round that can transform this defense into a stingy, top 5 one, you have to go this route.
                Right, and anyone who has paid attention to how this team has drafted the last 3 draft years, knows the Bills wont reach for a QB. I don't think position is really as important to Nix as grade of the prospect in relation to the Bills when drafting. I have yet to see this team draft a first rounder based on need since Gailey and Nix took over. JMO

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                • SquishDaFish
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                  • Jun 2005
                  • 17034

                  #23
                  Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

                  You should never draft based on need. You go with the top player on your board regardless IMO. I do want a QB btw

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                  • X-Era
                    What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 27670

                    #24
                    Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

                    Originally posted by T-Long View Post
                    Just talked with a source within the NFL and he told me that he doesn't think Gailey keeps his job following the season and has heard that the Bills are high on Arkansas QB Tyler Wilson.
                    I trust you. And I'm not questioning that you heard that. It just doesn't make much sense for Nix to come out as so vehemently defend Chan by saying you cant keep blowing it up, stay the course, etc... And then be planning to fire him.

                    Why wouldn't Nix just keep quiet on Chan or say they will look at everything in the off-season? Why go so far to extremes to tell everyone that he is staying and that keeping him is the right move for the future?
                    Last edited by X-Era; 12-02-2012, 08:43 AM.

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                    • better days
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                      • Jan 2010
                      • 22028

                      #25
                      Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

                      Originally posted by X-Era View Post
                      I trust you. And I'm not questioning that you heard that. It just doesn't make much sense for Nix to come out as so vehemently defend Chan by saying you cant keep blowing it up, stay the course, etc... And then be planning to fire him.

                      Why wouldn't Nix just keep quiet on Chan or say they will look at everything in the off-season? Why go so far to extremes to tell everyone that he is staying and that keeping him is the right move for the future?
                      The old tried & true vote of confidence. Happens every year to Coaches about to be fired.

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                      • Extremebillsfan247
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                        • Sep 2008
                        • 3142

                        #26
                        Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

                        Originally posted by X-Era View Post
                        I trust you. And I'm not questioning that you heard that. It just doesn't make much sense for Nix to come out as so vehemently defend Chan by saying you cant keep blowing it up, stay the course, etc... And then be planning to fire him.

                        Why wouldn't Nix just keep quiet on Chan or say they will look at everything in the off-season? Why go so far to extremes to tell everyone that he is staying and that keeping him is the right move for the future?
                        I'll even take this argument a step further, he also defends Gailey's stance on Fitzpatrick pretty heavily every time he comes on WGR550. I don't think Gailey is going anywhere unless the Bills completely fall apart in the last 5 games of the season. I think the Bills front office is pretty serious about staying the course this time around. Gailey could very well be this team's last head coach under Ralph Wilson Jr. JMO

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                        • YardRat
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                          • Dec 2004
                          • 86145

                          #27
                          Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

                          Originally posted by X-Era View Post
                          I trust you. And I'm not questioning that you heard that. It just doesn't make much sense for Nix to come out as so vehemently defend Chan by saying you cant keep blowing it up, stay the course, etc... And then be planning to fire him.

                          Why wouldn't Nix just keep quiet on Chan or say they will look at everything in the off-season? Why go so far to extremes to tell everyone that he is staying and that keeping him is the right move for the future?
                          There probably has been an internal ultimatum issued...finish at 8-8 or better, or he's gone. As long as the goal is still attainable, Nix would have to support Gailey until he completely fails.
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                          • Yasgur's Farm
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                            • Feb 2005
                            • 7091

                            #28
                            Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

                            Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                            There probably has been an internal ultimatum issued...finish at 8-8 or better, or he's gone. As long as the goal is still attainable, Nix would have to support Gailey until he completely fails.
                            That's it right there... No matter what NIx has defined as his gauge (palyoffs, 8-8, etc), he's not gonna put himself in the position of being a stumbling block for Gailey until the goal is no longer attainable... ESPECIALLY if they're friends. Hell... Even the playoffs are not out of the question yet!
                            Last edited by Yasgur's Farm; 12-02-2012, 09:53 AM.

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                            • Buddo
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 1864

                              #29
                              Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

                              Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                              There probably has been an internal ultimatum issued...finish at 8-8 or better, or he's gone. As long as the goal is still attainable, Nix would have to support Gailey until he completely fails.
                              In the context of the OP, this makes the most sense, imho.
                              I wouldn't rule out Nix making a serious move for a QB, either. Providing he has him graded around where the pick is that he moves to, I think he will be prepared to do it, even if it means giving up a bunch of other picks.
                              Nix might be somewhat conservative in respect of the draft, and making moves, but as he showed with Mario, if he thinks it is the right move and player, he's not afraid to pull the trigger.
                              For all that results aren't showing it, I believe that Nix has improved the roster an awful lot in his time here, and if he can hang on to Byrd and Levitre etc. as well, he will be doing pretty much what he said he was going to do.

                              As regards the coaching situation, I'm still somewhat on the fence. With a better QB, or better QB play, we could possibly have been at 7-4, rather than 4-7. I also am starting to come around to how the D is improving, and I wonder if a coaching change wouldn't necessarily cause too much disruption - unless the new coaches do run similar schemes, more particularly on D.

                              We don't just need a QB in the draft, we also need a good WR. If Nelson had been healthy, we might have done a bit better, but atm our WR corps is awfully thin, and it still doesn't look too promising, even with Nelson back. I suppose another QB might actually be able to hit Graham down the field, so that might reduce the need somewhat, but it still doesn't look great.

                              While I think Bradham is coming along nicely, we also still need a better LB in there, who is good in coverage, and CB is also going to be on the list.

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                              • DraftBoy
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                                • Jul 2002
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                                #30
                                Re: Just talked with a source about Gailey's future and QB in draft

                                Originally posted by X-Era View Post
                                I trust you. And I'm not questioning that you heard that. It just doesn't make much sense for Nix to come out as so vehemently defend Chan by saying you cant keep blowing it up, stay the course, etc... And then be planning to fire him.

                                Why wouldn't Nix just keep quiet on Chan or say they will look at everything in the off-season? Why go so far to extremes to tell everyone that he is staying and that keeping him is the right move for the future?
                                Nix stays silent the rumors start flying weeks ago and every day is a distraction. Him remaining strong in his defense is nothing to read into. Strictly PR.
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