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  • The Jokeman
    Registered User
    • Dec 2003
    • 9995

    #16
    Re: Nix Asks the fans for more patience

    Originally posted by DesertFox24 View Post
    Well he has two choices to handle this.

    Hope a guy like Rogers or Flacco falls in the draft or trade picks and move up like the Jets and Jags did with Sanchez and Gabbert.

    I personally agree with the approach and would like to take it one step further where the rookie does not play unless we are smoking a team, not even if we are getting blown out. Also I let him play a lot in the preseason.

    The only problem is that hopefully we are better team and are not in the top 10 which means in order to get the legit dude you have to trade the farm to get the guy. Now it appears to be working for the skins but not working for the jets or jags, both traded up for sanchez and Gabbert.

    The other option is to draft a guy like Dalton or Kap late first or early second and develop them for probably two years till they are ready. The cowboys developed Romo for what two years before he played, Rogers was behind Favre for 3 years.

    I am fine with this approach if our defense is a top 10 unit, I believe that Fitz is adequate enough to win 10 games if we have a top 10 defense (assuming the running game stays strong like this year).
    Guys like Rodgers and Flacco don't "fall" in drafts. The truth is what Nix is trying to say, what I do, that franchise QBs are more a product of their surrounding cast then talent all by their lonesomes. Look at Josh Freeman last year compared to this year. He's worlds better is it because suddenly he became better and/or more mature or was it through the additional of Vincent Jackson, Dallas Clark or Doug Martin. Most likely it was a combination of both but to me you build as much talent outside of QB and then make your QB the last part and then he's not going to be counted on to do as much which means he has a better chance at suceeding.

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    • Lone Stranger
      Registered User
      • Sep 2002
      • 952

      #17
      Re: Nix Asks the fans for more patience

      I'm sick of hearing Buddy's BS. When he first got the job "we're just a little away". Then his theme was we had a bunch of bums and needed wholesale upgrades. He makes Jauron sound like the greatest coach of all-time considering Buddy's analysis of the personnel in retrospect. Just BS; just BS. You all can fall for it but I've had it.

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      • BertSquirtgum
        Legendary Zoner
        • May 2009
        • 13379

        #18
        Re: Nix Asks the fans for more patience

        More patience? Nix can go **** himself. Please resign you dumb old slack jawed hillbilly moron.

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        • SABURZFAN
          short bus extraordinaire
          • Jul 2002
          • 50747

          #19
          Re: Nix Asks the fans for more patience

          i am patiently waiting for The Old Fart to croak.
          Originally posted by yordad
          Christ, you are the queerest person in the history of Bills fanhood. I swear to god I would stomp you.

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          • kingJofNYC
            Registered User
            • Sep 2009
            • 5960

            #20
            Re: Nix Asks the fans for more patience

            I've had a lot of patience.

            Fans ask Nix to draft quality players!

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            • OpIv37
              Acid Douching Asswipe
              • Sep 2002
              • 101261

              #21
              Re: Nix Asks the fans for more patience

              Really?
              No championships in 46 years.
              0-46 on Super Bowls
              1 winning season in 12 years
              No playoffs in 12 years
              No playoff wins in 16 years
              3 years of the current regime and we are no better than when they got here.

              Through all of this, fans keep going to games, watching on TV and buying merch. And this dumb mother****er has the audacity to ask fans to be patient?

              Go **** yourself, Buddy. You have our patience- it's in the form of the money sitting in your bank account. Other teams get better from one year to the next, yet, you can't. Other teams improve through the draft and find impact players through FA, yet, you can't. Other teams improve by changing coaches and their base offense/defense, yet you take two steps backward for every step forward.

              And you want us to be patient? Buddy, you can be as patient as you want with Chan, Wanny and Fitz. They will NEVER win a SB, especially with you picking the "talent" they have to work with. Seriously, **** off and die.
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              • kingJofNYC
                Registered User
                • Sep 2009
                • 5960

                #22
                Re: Nix Asks the fans for more patience

                Understand what he's trying to sell to the fans, but we've been fed that line one too many times.

                We're the most patient fans in football, the fact that we actually discuss our team is a testament to our commitment. Fans have stuck with this franchise, other fan bases jump ship with ease. The ****ing Rams have had more success in the last 12 years than this team has, and their fans abandoned the team a few years removed from a SB victory.

                Patients, we have plenty of patients. Results, we have none. Show me something, show me you're not the incompetent old man who's ****ed up two drafts.
                Last edited by kingJofNYC; 12-06-2012, 09:53 PM.

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                • Typ0
                  honey pie
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 32593

                  #23
                  Re: Nix Asks the fans for more patience

                  and the Rams will be coming here to kick our asses this week too. They are not a completely pathetic football team...I doubt we can beat them.

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                  • Night Train
                    Retired - On Several Levels
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 33117

                    #24
                    Re: Nix Asks the fans for more patience

                    To me, it simply sounds like a public plea towards Brandon to save his job.
                    Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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                    • X-Era
                      What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 27670

                      #25
                      Re: Nix Asks the fans for more patience

                      Originally posted by BLeonard View Post
                      I don't disagree with the philosophy, per se, but the thing is, with that philosophy, you actually have to get the QB at some time.

                      The problem is, 2013 doesn't look like a deep year for QB's... I don't follow college football too much, so I don't really know how 2014 looks, but, if Nix doesn't get a QB this year, we'll hear the same **** this time next year. By then, all those players you drafted to build the team up before getting a QB are looking at Free Agency. Levitre and Byrd are up this year, Wood is up after next year... teh year after, Spiller's contract is up.

                      How many more years is he gonna wait before pulling the trigger? If he waits much longer, he'll have to spend the picks on players to fill holes that are created by players leaving for Free Agency.

                      -Bill
                      It's deeper than that. I don't fully agree with his concept. Yes, you need to have a good team for the young QB to suceed. But there's no reason our young QB couldn't sit the bench while the rest of the team was built.

                      Using his method, should we somehow assume the young QB will play like a solid starter day one? There is often a period where the young player adapts to the NFL. How many more months will we be forced to stay with Fitz because our young QB isn't ready?
                      Last edited by X-Era; 12-07-2012, 05:42 AM.

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                      • OpIv37
                        Acid Douching Asswipe
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 101261

                        #26
                        Re: Nix Asks the fans for more patience

                        And one more problem with patience:

                        NFL players have a limited shelf life. Players get old and become shells of themselves or retire. Players become FA's and move on. Players get injuries from which they don't fully recover. The longer it takes Buddy to fill existing holes, the more likely new ones will open up. Actually, "likely" is a bad way to phrase it- new holes will inevitably open up.

                        This is why this team has been mired in a self-perpetuating rebuilding cycle for 12 ****ing years. They attempt to plug holes through the draft and FA, but make bad choices, and by the time they figure it out and get the holes plugged, new holes have opened up, and we are right back to bad choices in the draft and FA. Then the coach and/or the GM gets fired and we are right back to the beginning of the cycle.

                        So, once again, **** patience. It's way past time for this team to start getting it right.
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                        • Mr. Miyagi
                          Lecter's Little *****

                          • Sep 2002
                          • 53616

                          #27
                          Re: Nix Asks the fans for more patience

                          Originally posted by bf1 View Post
                          Sorry Nix. I don't have patience as you "build through the draft" while missing picks left and right. Besides Mario, he's done nothing significant in free agency. The end result is a wash. Constantly trying to fill holes as new ones open up. It's incredibly frustrating to see other teams improve. Granted other teams have their ups and downs, but it's frustrating that there are never any ups and it's not a lack of patience.
                          I think we've been slowly filling the holes and not creating new ones as quickly. Look at our needs from two years ago and last year, LT, RT, CB, QB, WR, TE, you count them. This year I would argue all we need are QB, LB, and maybe 2nd WR. Ron Brooks can certainly fill the 2nd CB need, and we've got our franchise LT for years to come in Glenn and Spiller being the future RB. That's definitely a step in the right direction.

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                          • bf1
                            Registered User
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 2882

                            #28
                            Re: Nix Asks the fans for more patience

                            Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi View Post
                            I think we've been slowly filling the holes and not creating new ones as quickly. Look at our needs from two years ago and last year, LT, RT, CB, QB, WR, TE, you count them. This year I would argue all we need are QB, LB, and maybe 2nd WR. Ron Brooks can certainly fill the 2nd CB need, and we've got our franchise LT for years to come in Glenn and Spiller being the future RB. That's definitely a step in the right direction.
                            If we filled those holes with better talent, their record would show it. Lets see how many players leave before filling the rest of the holes.


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                            • BertSquirtgum
                              Legendary Zoner
                              • May 2009
                              • 13379

                              #29
                              Re: Nix Asks the fans for more patience

                              Levitre will be running as fast as he can to greener pastures, same with urbik and rhinehart. Byrd is gone. How does the o-line look now?

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                              • bf1
                                Registered User
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 2882

                                #30
                                Re: Nix Asks the fans for more patience

                                Don't know why, but this is how I view Buddy Nix's performance as GM and building the team. Can't keep up! Where eating the chocolate is bringing in Shawn Pussyfoot on Steroids Merriman.



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