Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 21 to 38 of 38

Thread: 2013 - Free Agents. Who should the Bills go after?

  1. #21
    Registered User Ed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Denver, CO
    Posts
    4,711
    Thanks
    142
    Thanked 722 Times in 406 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    23
    ZoneBux
    31,174.47
    Bank
    0.00
    Total ZoneBux
    31,174.47
    Donate

    Re: 2013 - Free Agents. Who should the Bills go after?

    Quote Originally Posted by coastal View Post
    Urbik, McMarbles, Levitre and Byrd all resign?

    i hope you're right.
    I don't know if they'll want to bring back McKelvin, but there's no reason they can't have these guys back. The Bills can free up money by not bringing back certain players.

    It looks like Thigpen and Spencer Johnson's contract are both up, which cost them about 6.5 mil this season.
    Kir Morrison's release saves them about 1.5 mil.
    Cutting Kelsay would save about 4.2 mil.
    Cutting McGee saves another 2.1 mil.
    Cutting George Wilson saves about 3.4 mil.
    Cutting Brad Smith could save about 2.8 mil.

    They have options. If Nix wants to keep those guys they can make it work. They're probably not going to be able to make a huge splash like they did last year, but they should have enough flexibility to sign their own and make some moves in free agency.

  2. Post thanked by:

    BertSquirtgum (12-07-2012),better days (12-07-2012)

  3. #22
    Hall of Fame Zoner coastal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    5,996
    Thanks
    5,607
    Thanked 3,380 Times in 1,976 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    22
    ZoneBux
    68,898.65
    Bank
    0.00
    Total ZoneBux
    68,898.65
    Donate

    Re: 2013 - Free Agents. Who should the Bills go after?

    Like I said I hope you're right.

    to me it's more of a question of whether they even want to be here.

  4. #23
    Registered User The Jokeman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Buffalo, NY
    Posts
    6,588
    Thanks
    32
    Thanked 773 Times in 558 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    28
    ZoneBux
    35,405.89
    Bank
    0.00
    Total ZoneBux
    35,405.89
    Donate

    Re: 2013 - Free Agents. Who should the Bills go after?

    Quote Originally Posted by HurkeyNuts View Post
    The Bills have a number of needs this off season. Some of these needs could be filled through free agency. I am going to list the guys who I think the Bills should go after. I know signing every one of these guys is not realistic. What do you guys think the Bills should do?

    I consider each of these positions necessity needs for us, in order of importance.

    QB: The only quarterback worth wasting effort on is Joe Flacco and Matt Schuab. I also don't believe the Ravens will let him get to free agency. Houston might go with TJ Yates instead of paying Schaub. Matt Moore is much more consistent and a better option than Fitzputrid, IMO.

    Joe Flacco - age 27 - Baltimore
    Matt Schaub - age 31 - Houston
    Matt Moore - 28 - Miami

    LB: Some of these are worthy are going after. Most of the guys worth signing come from a 3-4. I don't know how they would translate to the 4-3.

    Shaun Philips - age 30 - San Diego
    Bradie James - age 31 - Houston
    Leroy Hill - age 30 - Seattle
    Erin Henderson - age 26 - Minnesota
    Will Witherspoon - age 32 - Tennessee
    Manny Lawson - age 28 - Cincinnati
    Philip Wheeler - age 27 - Oakland
    Daryl Smith - age 30 - Jacksonville
    James Laurinaitis - age 26 - St. Louis

    WR: I believe the Bills need a 1b option at the receiver position. Nelson and Jones should be nothing more than slot receivers. They are both RFA in 2013.

    Dwayne Bowe - age 28 - Kansas City
    Mike Wallace - age 26 - Pittsburgh
    Greg Jennings - age 29 - Green Bay
    Ramses Barden - age 25 - NYG
    Brandon Gibson - age 25 - St Louis
    Devery Henderson - age 30 - New Orleans

    CB: It's clear that don't have a #2 at this point. Ron Brooks might turn out to be that guy. Leodis can handle the nickle positions if the Bills resign him.

    Chris Houston - age 28 - Detriot
    Tracy Porter - age 26 - Denver
    Quentin Jammer - age 33 - San Diego - Although aging, he's still very good. Look at what Woodson did for Green Bay at the same age.
    Brent Grimes - 30 - Atlanta
    Jason - McCourty - age 26 - Tennessee

    RT:
    Phil Loadholt - age 26 - Minnesota
    Sebastian Vollmer - age 28 - New England
    Jermon Bushrod - age 28 - New Orleans
    Will Svitek - age 30 - Atlanta

    S:
    Tanard Jackson - age 27 - Washington
    Kenny Phillips - age 26 - NYG
    Laron Landry - age 28 - NYJ
    Kerry Rhodes - age 30 - Arizona
    Yeremiah Bell - age 34 - NYJ

    C (backup): Don't know many quality players or backups even for this position.
    Jeff Faine - age 31 - Cincinnati
    Dan Koppen - age 33 - Denver

    Teams don't let above average QB just walk away in free agency so I think that crosses Flacco and Schaub off the list. Matt Moore to me is nothing special. One name that seems more then likely to be available is Michael Vick, I will say that I don't like the idea of adding him but he would give this team some buzz if added so he might be a guy we pursue unless we draft someone high.

    At LB we we need a WLB and MLB and none of the names you mentioned really intrigued me except for Laurinaitis but as mentioned he's not available.

    WR could be a position we could get someone, I know he signed long term but based on his struggles this year Robert Meachem might be available and we liked him last offseason so we might get him on the cheap this offseason. Other names you listed that I think are likely are Brandon Gibson and maybe Greg Jennings yet he's a big time question mark.

    CB is an interesting position Brent Grimes name rings bells as know he picks off passes but haven't really studied your list in great detail.

    RT, I think we keep things as is as Erik Pears being healthy makes a world of difference. Yet I'm all for drafting an OT in Round 4 or 5 of the draft to shore up more depth.

    S, keeping Byrd is vital but I'd be all for getting a depth guy to compete with George Wilson to start at SS.

    C, finding a veteran depth guy important but I haven't looked to see who's out there. Koppen's age scares me but if he playing only a handful of games I'm okay but still might look to draft a guy in 5 or 6 to add depth.

  5. #24
    Smells like Bodissy BertSquirtgum's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Bills Country - Ransomville
    Posts
    9,821
    Thanks
    1,508
    Thanked 1,947 Times in 1,233 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    28
    ZoneBux
    30,361.19
    Bank
    0.00
    Total ZoneBux
    30,361.19
    Donate

    Re: 2013 - Free Agents. Who should the Bills go after?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Jokeman View Post
    Teams don't let above average QB just walk away in free agency so I think that crosses Flacco and Schaub off the list. Matt Moore to me is nothing special. One name that seems more then likely to be available is Michael Vick, I will say that I don't like the idea of adding him but he would give this team some buzz if added so he might be a guy we pursue unless we draft someone high.

    At LB we we need a WLB and MLB and none of the names you mentioned really intrigued me except for Laurinaitis but as mentioned he's not available.

    WR could be a position we could get someone, I know he signed long term but based on his struggles this year Robert Meachem might be available and we liked him last offseason so we might get him on the cheap this offseason. Other names you listed that I think are likely are Brandon Gibson and maybe Greg Jennings yet he's a big time question mark.

    CB is an interesting position Brent Grimes name rings bells as know he picks off passes but haven't really studied your list in great detail.

    RT, I think we keep things as is as Erik Pears being healthy makes a world of difference. Yet I'm all for drafting an OT in Round 4 or 5 of the draft to shore up more depth.

    S, keeping Byrd is vital but I'd be all for getting a depth guy to compete with George Wilson to start at SS.

    C, finding a veteran depth guy important but I haven't looked to see who's out there. Koppen's age scares me but if he playing only a handful of games I'm okay but still might look to draft a guy in 5 or 6 to add depth.
    George Wilson sucks. He needs to be replaced.

  6. Post thanked by:

    better days (12-07-2012)

  7. #25
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    1,307
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 663 Times in 398 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    5
    ZoneBux
    27,267.50
    Bank
    0.00
    Total ZoneBux
    27,267.50
    Donate

    Re: 2013 - Free Agents. Who should the Bills go after?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Jokeman View Post
    CB is an interesting position Brent Grimes name rings bells as know he picks off passes but haven't really studied your list in great detail.
    I like Grimes. Not the biggest guy, but a battler who can cover. However, he tore his achilles earlier this season, which is a scary injury for a CB. He got Atlanta's franchise tag last year, but I don't think anyone will give him much guaranteed money as a FA. It usually takes half the season back playing to get back to form after an Achilles, if it is to happen. I think he ends up looking for a 1-year deal with incentives to allow him to earn more, so he can prove he will be the same player post-injury. If he can recover, he'll be 30, so he probably lost his chance to get a huge contract.

  8. #26
    Registered User MST3KBillsfan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    6,655
    Thanks
    7,430
    Thanked 1,999 Times in 1,415 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    23
    ZoneBux
    102,829.62
    Bank
    0.00
    Total ZoneBux
    102,829.62
    Donate

    Re: 2013 - Free Agents. Who should the Bills go after?

    Schaub, Bowie, Byrd, and one or two of our OL

  9. #27
    All-Pro Zoner Don't Panic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Raleigh, North Carolina, United States
    Posts
    4,000
    Thanks
    834
    Thanked 397 Times in 214 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    18
    ZoneBux
    38,340.04
    Bank
    0.00
    Total ZoneBux
    38,340.04
    Donate

    Re: 2013 - Free Agents. Who should the Bills go after?

    We are not going after a QB in free agency, at least not one of starter quality. And how some of you conclude tha Matt Moore is better than Fitz is comical to say the least.

    Bowe would be ideal, and WR is a great place to go with FA, especially considering where we're at right now. DB is another great area to look at in FA. LB would be best addressed through the draft IMO.

  10. #28
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    18,370
    Thanks
    6,389
    Thanked 2,511 Times in 1,694 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    44
    ZoneBux
    112,633.98
    Bank
    0.00
    Total ZoneBux
    112,633.98
    Donate

    Re: 2013 - Free Agents. Who should the Bills go after?

    Quote Originally Posted by Don't Panic View Post
    We are not going after a QB in free agency, at least not one of starter quality. And how some of you conclude tha Matt Moore is better than Fitz is comical to say the least.

    Bowe would be ideal, and WR is a great place to go with FA, especially considering where we're at right now. DB is another great area to look at in FA. LB would be best addressed through the draft IMO.
    Moore would win a fair competition against Fitz every time. NOTHING funny about that.

  11. Post thanked by:

    BertSquirtgum (12-08-2012)

  12. #29
    Smells like Bodissy BertSquirtgum's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Bills Country - Ransomville
    Posts
    9,821
    Thanks
    1,508
    Thanked 1,947 Times in 1,233 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    28
    ZoneBux
    30,361.19
    Bank
    0.00
    Total ZoneBux
    30,361.19
    Donate

    Re: 2013 - Free Agents. Who should the Bills go after?

    Quote Originally Posted by Don't Panic View Post
    We are not going after a QB in free agency, at least not one of starter quality. And how some of you conclude tha Matt Moore is better than Fitz is comical to say the least.

    Bowe would be ideal, and WR is a great place to go with FA, especially considering where we're at right now. DB is another great area to look at in FA. LB would be best addressed through the draft IMO.
    Have you even watched a game this year? Fitzputrid is awful.

  13. #30
    Smells like Bodissy BertSquirtgum's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Bills Country - Ransomville
    Posts
    9,821
    Thanks
    1,508
    Thanked 1,947 Times in 1,233 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    28
    ZoneBux
    30,361.19
    Bank
    0.00
    Total ZoneBux
    30,361.19
    Donate

    Re: 2013 - Free Agents. Who should the Bills go after?

    Quote Originally Posted by better days View Post
    Moore would win a fair competition against Fitz every time. NOTHING funny about that.
    Exactly. This team's current QB situation is so bad that I would choose Matt Moore over the current starter. Just awful.

  14. Post thanked by:

    better days (12-09-2012)

  15. #31
    All-Pro Zoner Don't Panic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Raleigh, North Carolina, United States
    Posts
    4,000
    Thanks
    834
    Thanked 397 Times in 214 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    18
    ZoneBux
    38,340.04
    Bank
    0.00
    Total ZoneBux
    38,340.04
    Donate

    Re: 2013 - Free Agents. Who should the Bills go after?

    You guys are jaded... it's almost like talking to two PTSD victims. Fitzpatrick may be vanilla, but Moore is garbage.

  16. #32
    What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace X-Era's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Corning, New York, United States
    Posts
    26,586
    Thanks
    791
    Thanked 1,420 Times in 868 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    71
    ZoneBux
    140,783.54
    Bank
    0.00
    Total ZoneBux
    140,783.54
    Donate

    Re: 2013 - Free Agents. Who should the Bills go after?

    Schaub and Flacco are pretty much going nowhere. I would take either. Moore I have no interest in.


  17. #33
    Smells like Bodissy BertSquirtgum's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Bills Country - Ransomville
    Posts
    9,821
    Thanks
    1,508
    Thanked 1,947 Times in 1,233 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    28
    ZoneBux
    30,361.19
    Bank
    0.00
    Total ZoneBux
    30,361.19
    Donate

    Re: 2013 - Free Agents. Who should the Bills go after?

    If Vick becomes available, I would rather the Bills go into next season with Vick instead Putzputrid. Fitz will never lead this team to anything more than a 6-10 record.

  18. #34
    Registered User Ed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Denver, CO
    Posts
    4,711
    Thanks
    142
    Thanked 722 Times in 406 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    23
    ZoneBux
    31,174.47
    Bank
    0.00
    Total ZoneBux
    31,174.47
    Donate

    Re: 2013 - Free Agents. Who should the Bills go after?

    Well looks like Chris Brown has crushed my hopes of getting Bowe in his weekly Fan Friday Q&A:

    3 – Hi Chris,
    Just looking ahead at the possibilities of the Bills filling in some holes with Free Agency and how active they might be this coming off-season. I would love for them to make upgrades at corner, wide receiver, and linebacker (quarterback too, but that would likely be addressed in the draft). How much cap space do the Bills currently have to work with in the off-season? I know that re-signing Byrd and Levitre will be top priorities for them, but once they’re taken care of, how much room will they likely have to work with, if any at all? Would love to see Dwayne Bowe in a Bills uniform!

    As always, love the coverage you provide for us … please keep up the great work!

    Paul

    CB: Thanks for the kind words. I am not in a position to provide cap space figures, but I can tell you that Buffalo has a lot of young players coming up for contract consideration. You mentioned Byrd and Levitre. They’ve also got Kraig Urbik, Chad Rinehart to consider for their offensive line. Restricted free agents include David Nelson and Donald Jones. Leodis McKelvin is another unrestricted free agent of note. So very quickly just for the Bills to keep their own they’ll be eating into heavily into their cap space if they decide to do some long terms deals with any of the aforementioned players.

    One free agent to be that hasn’t garnered much attention is Kyle Moore, who will also be unrestricted at season’s end.

    That’s why the thought of Dwayne Bowe in a Bills uniform is a pipe dream. Buffalo is already heavily invested in the wide receiver position with Stevie Johnson. They likely intend to invest more with Nelson and Jones. So to try and add Bowe, who is looking for upwards of $10M a season, it’s just not going to happen.
    Other veteran free agents of note include Bryan Scott, Corey McIntyre and Spencer Johnson.

  19. #35
    Smells like Bodissy BertSquirtgum's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Bills Country - Ransomville
    Posts
    9,821
    Thanks
    1,508
    Thanked 1,947 Times in 1,233 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    28
    ZoneBux
    30,361.19
    Bank
    0.00
    Total ZoneBux
    30,361.19
    Donate

    Re: 2013 - Free Agents. Who should the Bills go after?

    Bryan Scott is beyond terrible, Corey Mcintyre can be replaced by anybody, and Spencer Johnson is equally as terrible as Bryan Scott. I have no idea why the Bills would want to resign these guys.

  20. #36
    Registered Sex Offender Mr. Pink's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    the fifth ring of hell
    Posts
    19,598
    Thanks
    431
    Thanked 1,995 Times in 1,214 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    0
    ZoneBux
    78,079.57
    Bank
    0.00
    Total ZoneBux
    78,079.57
    Donate

    Re: 2013 - Free Agents. Who should the Bills go after?

    Weak FA class.

  21. #37
    Registered User more cowbell's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    San Diego...formerly WNY
    Posts
    1,423
    Thanks
    149
    Thanked 131 Times in 66 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    11
    ZoneBux
    8,296.98
    Bank
    0.00
    Total ZoneBux
    8,296.98
    Donate

    Re: 2013 - Free Agents. Who should the Bills go after?

    quentin jammer = farts.
    The last time the Bills made the playoffs was 1999.

  22. #38
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    18,370
    Thanks
    6,389
    Thanked 2,511 Times in 1,694 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    44
    ZoneBux
    112,633.98
    Bank
    0.00
    Total ZoneBux
    112,633.98
    Donate

    Re: 2013 - Free Agents. Who should the Bills go after?

    Quote Originally Posted by Don't Panic View Post
    You guys are jaded... it's almost like talking to two PTSD victims. Fitzpatrick may be vanilla, but Moore is garbage.
    When given the chance to play this year, Moore has not looked like garbage, Fitz has.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •