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    Re: Illegal immigrant gets kidney

    Quote Originally Posted by Suetonius View Post
    The only line that should be drawn is those who are sickest should get treated first!
    And yet there are many instances where the game is not played that way. Often, the sickest get dropped down the list.
    There's battle lines being drawn...Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
    We better stop...Hey, what's that sound? Everybody look - what's going down?

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    Re: Illegal immigrant gets kidney

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    And yet there are many instances where the game is not played that way. Often, the sickest get dropped down the list.
    this may excusable in war, but this is peacetime and if a kidney (provided by the guy's own mother no less, read the damn article, his mom gave him the kidney) can save a life then why not? Why should someone get better treatment just because they can write a bigger check? Why is medical care profit driven? Perhaps it explains why medical care in Europe is by and large far superior to our own.

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    Re: Illegal immigrant gets kidney

    Quote Originally Posted by Suetonius View Post
    The man is a human ****ing being, he needs a ****ing kidney and he got one out of charity. No taxes were directly involved. What the **** is wrong with you psychotic rightwing ****tards?
    Oh for the love of Christ if you can't make your argument without committing a fallacy you have to honestly ask yourself if you have an argument. That's why I told you in the other thread you're asking the wrong questions and arguing the wrong points.

    This is the same situation as the Abortion discussion, it never has been and never will be about when life starts. That's the stupidest and most intellectually dishonest position one could ever take on a policy issue.

    Same principle applies here.
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    Re: Illegal immigrant gets kidney

    Quote Originally Posted by Suetonius View Post
    Answer the question Saburz:
    i can see where this is going and it's not going to work. nice try though, Slappy.
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    Re: Illegal immigrant gets kidney

    so, many of us are in agreement this is a non-issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
    so, many of us are in agreement this is a non-issue?

    of course you do. that's the Lefty way on this board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SABURZFAN View Post
    of course you do. that's the Lefty way on this board.
    if being a lefty = compassion for human life and decency, then guilty as charged. like i said, im not the one whining about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
    if being a lefty = compassion for human life and decency, then guilty as charged. like i said, im not the one whining about it.




    paint it the way you want to.

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    Re: Illegal immigrant gets kidney

    i just did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
    i just did.

    go get yourself a cookie now.

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    Re: Illegal immigrant gets kidney

    are cheez-its ok?

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    Re: Illegal immigrant gets kidney

    Quote Originally Posted by Suetonius View Post
    this may excusable in war, but this is peacetime and if a kidney (provided by the guy's own mother no less, read the damn article, his mom gave him the kidney) can save a life then why not? Why should someone get better treatment just because they can write a bigger check? Why is medical care profit driven? Perhaps it explains why medical care in Europe is by and large far superior to our own.
    War or peace, rich or poor has nothing to do with my point, but go ahead and attempt to spin the typical emotional appeal/class disparity angle yet again.

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    Re: Illegal immigrant gets kidney

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    War or peace, rich or poor has nothing to do with my point, but go ahead and attempt to spin the typical emotional appeal/class disparity angle yet again.
    Then please Doctor Kevorkian, or is it nurse Ratchet (I assum that you are a medical expert of some sort), what is your point?

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    Re: Illegal immigrant gets kidney

    Quote Originally Posted by Suetonius View Post
    Why is medical care profit driven?
    Why indeed.

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    Re: Illegal immigrant gets kidney

    Quote Originally Posted by Suetonius View Post
    Oh, and Saburzfan is being very -- and I suspect maliciously -- disinginuous with his link.
    Ya think?

    The conservative "intelligentsia" here are pretty weak. Tearing apart their threads and posts is like shooting fish in a barrel.

    Loyola performs free kidney transplant for illegal immigrant

    Jorge Mariscal, a 24-year-old graphic design student, received a kidney transplant he waited eight long years for courtesy of Chicago’s Loyola University Medial Center this past Thursday. But, you see, Mariscal is an illegal immigrant who came to the U.S. from Mexico when he was a year old.

    The Chicago Tribune reported that Mariscal considered heading back to Mexico for the transplant since “doctors said he wouldn't be able to receive a kidney transplant in the U.S. because he is undocumented.” However, Loyola agreed to pay for the surgery, and Mariscol will have to come up with the approximately $10,000 a year cost for the medications he will need to be on for the rest of his life.

    Quite a difficult feat for one without medical insurance.
    Carpenter's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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    Re: Illegal immigrant gets kidney

    Quote Originally Posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
    so, many of us are in agreement this is a non-issue?
    THE ISSUE IS THAT A FILTHY WETBBACK GOT MEDICAL TREATMENT!

    /Sabz.

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    Re: Illegal immigrant gets kidney

    Quote Originally Posted by Suetonius View Post
    this may excusable in war, but this is peacetime and if a kidney (provided by the guy's own mother no less, read the damn article, his mom gave him the kidney) can save a life then why not? Why should someone get better treatment just because they can write a bigger check? Why is medical care profit driven? Perhaps it explains why medical care in Europe is by and large far superior to our own.
    I agree with the life saving surgery from Mom's own supply of kidneys... Is this really that big a deal?

    As to Medical care being better in Europe... Link it homie and make sure like isn't about "healthcare"... Actual advanced medical techniques and availability of those techniques please.

    As to profit driven... That is where advancement comes from. Rapid Arc radiation therapy is fantastic (not on the planning side) and it wouldn't even be available to cancer patients had there been nothing for Elekta (Varian) to gain by doing all the R&D to develpoe such a practice.

    There would be no robotic surgery had the company that makes the Davinci equipment not profited from it's developement.

    Pretty sure the stem cell research teams know there is an end game cash award for developing a breakthrough... It would be nice if all was done do to pure godliness.

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    That's crap.

    The profits don't go into research, they go into advertising. ("When the time is right..")

    The research comes from the government.

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    Re: Illegal immigrant gets kidney

    Bull****. Have you ever seen a commercial for mammosite brachytherapy partial breast treatment?

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