Nix: “Time’s now” to trade up for a QB

[cookie G]

Re: Nix: “Time’s now” to trade up for a QB

With all the talk about this being a bad draft for qb's, is it too far fetched to think that there could be a Dalton , Kaepernick or a Russell Wilson from amongst the litter?

Nope. It'll just take a more work to find the right one, unless you just want to throw darts.

A cursory review at the Senior Bowl and combine won't be enough.

Miles and miles of tape study and dozens and dozens of interviews.

And what makes it tough is that it won't be narrowed down to 2-3 prospects, you're talking a dozen or more.

I said before, I'd outsource the job to Polian. I'm pretty sure he'd put in the time.

[ThunderGun]

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After seeing 3-5 starting NFL QBs that have been available when the Bills have drafted since Nix came here and he passed on, including 2nd & 3rd rounders, I have serious doubts about Nix's and the Bills scouts QB evaluation skills to make the right choice & trade up for the right guy.

Maybe he didn't want to draft a raw QB and throw him behind our crappy OLine. He finally has the OLine looking good, so it's time to get a QB.

[stuckincincy]

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Maybe he didn't want to draft a raw QB and throw him behind our crappy OLine. He finally has the OLine looking good, so it's time to get a QB.

That's kinda backward. If your OL is crap, don't let that stop you from grabbing a good qb prospect. You let him sit until you work on that OL as you see fit.

[better days]

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That's kinda backward. If your OL is crap, don't let that stop you from grabbing a good qb prospect. You let him sit until you work on that OL as you see fit.

Easier said than done. With the crap play of Fitz at QB, if there was a Rookie QB with potential sitting on the bench, fans would be SCREAMING for Fitz to be benched & start the Rookie. MANY young QBs have had their careers ruined that way.

[ThunderGun]

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Easier said than done. With the crap play of Fitz at QB, if there was a Rookie QB with potential sitting on the bench, fans would be SCREAMING for Fitz to be benched & start the Rookie. MANY young QBs have had their careers ruined that way.

Right. And, when these rookies are signed to 4 or 5 year deal, the pressure is high to get them on the field in year 1. If we draft a QB and he is signed for 4 years, do we really want him riding the bench for 1/4 of his time with the team?

Build the lines first, then plug in your QB.

[trapezeus]

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to be fair, our line had levitre and wood and playing in their proper position during year 1 of gailey. the journeymen we kept getting were doing ok. i don't remember watching a guy have a terrible terrible game on the OL in a long time. mistakes here and there, but they don't take many bad penalties and they are ok.

the time was last year, when there were 2 can't miss qb's to make the jump.

RGIII would have looked amazing in buffalo.

[stuckincincy]

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Right. And, when these rookies are signed to 4 or 5 year deal, the pressure is high to get them on the field in year 1. If we draft a QB and he is signed for 4 years, do we really want him riding the bench for 1/4 of his time with the team?

Build the lines first, then plug in your QB.

Think a Luck or a Griffin is on deck to be drafted this April?

[better days]

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Think a Luck or a Griffin is on deck to be drafted this April?

The Bills were in no position to draft Luck or Griffin last year, so what is your point? Who knows, there could be a Dalton or Kaepernick in this draft.

[ParanoidAndroid]

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With all the talk about this being a bad draft for qb's, is it too far fetched to think that there could be a Dalton , Kaepernick or a Russell Wilson from amongst the litter?

2012 - Russell Wilson, Nick Foles, (Osweiler behind Manning)
2011 - Dalton, Kaepernick
2010 - Nada
2009 - Nada
2008 - Josh Johnson, Brian Broh.... oh yeah...never mind, Matt Flynn?
2007 - Trent Edw.... oops...did it again, Tyler Thig....dammit...why do I keep doing that?
2006 - Tarvaris Jack..... s***!

My point? The chances are not so great. Good luck.

[stuckincincy]

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The Bills were in no position to draft Luck or Griffin last year, so what is your point? Who knows, there could be a Dalton or Kaepernick in this draft.

Watched Dalton and Kaepernick the last few games?

Point is exactly as you say, you have to be in the right spot at the right time.

[SABURZFAN]

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just what we need.... a bunch of bumbling fools quick to pull the trigger on a bum for the upcoming draft when they passed on numerous QBs in past drafts. who will be our JP Lossman for next year?

[SABURZFAN]

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2012 - Russell Wilson, Nick Foles, (Osweiler behind Manning)
2011 - Dalton, Kaepernick
2010 - Nada
2009 - Nada
2008 - Josh Johnson, Brian Broh.... oh yeah...never mind, Matt Flynn?
2007 - Trent Edw.... oops...did it again, Tyler Thig....dammit...why do I keep doing that?
2006 - Tarvaris Jack..... s***!

My point? The chances are not so great. Good luck.

great post.

[Albany,n.y.]

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Maybe he didn't want to draft a raw QB and throw him behind our crappy OLine. He finally has the OLine looking good, so it's time to get a QB.

We didn't have a crappy line in each of the last 2 seasons until guys went out with injuries. The OL hasn't been a problem since Urbik & Pears were picked up in 2010. So Buddy has no excuse for Dalton, Kaepernick, Wilson or even Foles & Cousins. Instead Buddy is shouting from the rooftops that he's ready to draft a QB after eschewing a QB in 2 rich QB drafts & plunging into what might be the thinnest QB pool in the last 3 years. One things for sure, when Buddy said he wasn't the brightest guy in the room, he wasn't kidding.

[YardRat]

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Build the lines, and the defense first, then get the QB when you can. I have zero issue with the approach.

Funny how everybody this season is now talking about Kaepernick and Wilson, and nobody is all over Cam Newton's nutsack anymore.

[DynaPaul]

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The time to trade up was last year. Of course the last time we traded up we wound up with JP Losman who set the franchise back many years. I don't have much faith that Buddy will get it right.