Who should we cut? Re-sign? Let walk?

[X-Era]

http://nyjetscap.com/Bills/bills2013.php
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/77...ary-cap-growth
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/

The cap will be around 121 mill
The above has us at around 103 mill (83.6 cash spend)

Cap savings per the above:

1. Fitz - Cap savings of 450K if the above is correct. He needs a demotion and then is way overpaid.
2. Troup - 580K - useless
3. Kelsay - 4.1m- He isn't worth what he's getting. He can rework it and take a cut or be cut
4. McGee - 2.1m - Can't stay on the field and is over the hill
5. Barnett - 3.5m- I'd like to replace him with a legit starter
6. Brad Smith - 2.75 m - What does he actually do?
7. Freddy - 1.6m - I wouldn't cut him to save this much. I'd trade him and if we couldn't trade him keep him.

This is our free agent list:

Unrestricted FAs
FS Jairus Byrd
RB Tashard Choice
QB Tarvaris Jackson
DL Spencer Johnson
G Andy Levitre
WR Ruvell Martin
FB Corey McIntyre
CB Leodis McKelvin
DE Shawne Merriman
DE Kyle Moore
G Chad Rinehart
LB Bryan Scott
QB Tyler Thigpen

Restricted FAs
C/G Colin Brown
WR Donald Jones
WR David Nelson

Exclusive Rights FAs
TE Mike Caussin
TE Dorin Dickerson

http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2012/1...-agent-list-3/

This is who we should re-sign:

Levitre
Byrd

I'd keep the following on the cheap:

Bryan Scott - But I want an upgrade to him as our Nickel LB'er.
T Jax - Because we traded for him
Martin - ST
McKelvin - Returner
McIntyre - ST
Kyle Moore - May command a bit more, I'd pay a reasonable amount

Id let these guys walk:

Thigpen - Useless and hopefully our primary backup will be a rookie
Spencer Johnson - Carrington has emerged to be at least at his level
Merriman - If he's willing to stay on the cheap fine. But I don't look at him as anything other than camp fodder at this point.

Keep the RFA's of course and the others can be TC fillers or walk.

[Skooby]

1-6.

[Mr. Pink]

Freddie is actually due some interesting bonuses, especially if he can healthy. 2.15 base + 300k roster bonus + 150k per game roster bonus. If he stays healthy he'll make 4.85m!

4 people on that list that would be nice to keep around Byrd, Levitre - as I said in the Urbik thread I don't think he'll be staying though, McIntyre - cheap and fills the FB roster spot even if we don't use it and Donald Jones.

The rest of those guys can all go elsewhere.

[coastal]

Byrd and Levitre are obvious.

Mckelvin, Kyle Moore, Tavaris Jackson. Bryan Scott, Merriman

[Night Train]

Your roster ideas are very good. Can't argue with much of anything.

[DraftBoy]

Byrd
Levitre
T Jax
McKelvin
Moore

The rest can walk and are all easily replaceable.

[Ed]

I think Kelsay has to go with a cap savings of $4.2 mil. He'll turn 34 during next season and he's just average depth at this point. It would be a waste to bring him back.

Another guy I would consider cutting is George Wilson with a cap savings of $3.4 mil. We should be trying to upgrade this position and his money can be better spent elsewhere. I say promote Searcy and draft someone to compete with him.

I was under the impression that David Nelson is a free agent also, but I don't know if he's restricted or not.

[Bert102176]

I would cut 1 thru 6 trade Freddy, sign Jairus Byrd, Andy Levitre, Leodis McKelvin, Tarvaris Jackson, Kyle Moore, Dorin Dickerson try and sign a good WR say Danny Amendola, Donnie Avery, Julian Edelman, Johny Knox, Dwayne Bowe, or Mike Wallace one of them, draft another say 3rd rd sign a Dustin Keller with the Jets the way they are why would he wanna go back, a Jared Cook, or Fred Davis one of those 3, as OL we need to look at Bryant McKinnie, Ryan Clady, Jake Long, Sebastian Vollmer, Jermon Bushrod one of those guys would be good.

[k-oneputt]

Bryan Scott and Justin Rogers. CUT.

[justasportsfan]

why do some of you want Freddie traded? What do you think we can get for him? I doubt we even get a 3rd. A 4th wont do us good. What insurance do we have behind Spiller? Choice? 1.6 million is nothing for a great insurance. If we draft a rookie qb, are you going to have Spiller block for him?

[Raptor]

Smart money is on Byrd getting resigned or tagged and then they let Levitre test the market where he signs elsewhere

I highly doubt the Bills get both done

[DraftBoy]

Smart money is on Byrd getting resigned or tagged and then they let Levitre test the market where he signs elsewhere

I highly doubt the Bills get both done

If Levitre hits the market he's gone and the Bills are in deep ****.

[Raptor]

If Levitre hits the market he's gone and the Bills are in deep ****.

Then prepare for them to be in deep ****, though I don't agree with that. I think OG's are far easier to replace than people make it out to be

Decisions need to be made and the bottom line is the Bills have Wood coming up next year and then Spiller the year after that. The Bills cant sign everyone, no team does. Some players are going to hit the market and its best to do so with the less impact-full positions. OG is one of those positions. Its likely a choice of signing Wood or Levitre long term, my guess is they are going to go with Wood and Levitre is as good as gone

[Ed]

Then prepare for them to be in deep ****, though I don't agree with that. I think OG's are far easier to replace than people make it out to be

Decisions need to be made and the bottom line is the Bills have Wood coming up next year and then Spiller the year after that. The Bills cant sign everyone, no team does. Some players are going to hit the market and its best to do so with the less impact-full positions. OG is one of those positions. Its likely a choice of signing Wood or Levitre long term, my guess is they are going to go with Wood and Levitre is as good as gone

The Bills have no big contracts tied up in the OL right now. They can re-sign Levitre and take care of Wood next year. Wood still needs to prove he's worth the investment by staying healthy for a season.

[Raptor]

The Bills have no big contracts tied up in the OL right now. They can re-sign Levitre and take care of Wood next year. Wood still needs to prove he's worth the investment by staying healthy for a season.

It doesnt matter if its tied up in the OL or not its still tied up.

To get Byrd and Levitre done its going to cost us about 13 million in cap space (Byrd:6 Levitre:7 ... and Im low balling it)

The Bills have at best 20 million available leaving 7 million to play with

You need about 4.5 million of that for draft picks

Leaving 2.5 million to fill out the roster.

I dont see how the Bills are bringing them both back and IMO its easier to replace an OG than it is a ball hawking Safety

[jimmifli]

Barnett is the only NFL caliber LB on the team. 3.5 is a fair price and I'd hate to create another hole.

[Raptor]

Barnett is the only NFL caliber LB on the team. 3.5 is a fair price and I'd hate to create another hole.

Agreed, if he is the best LB on your team you are in trouble. If he's the third best however you are in not to bad a shape

[cookie G]

If Levitre hits the market he's gone and the Bills are in deep ****.

yep.

That's the reason for the Urbik sigining. (who was probably overpaid).

When Levitre signs elsewhere for an ungodly amount, you'll hear, "well, you can't sign everyone, and we got 1 out of 2".

As if they are equal.

I don't have a good feeling about it.

[cookie G]

yep.

That's the reason for the Urbik sigining. (who was probably overpaid).

When Levitre signs elsewhere for an ungodly amount, you'll hear, "well, you can't sign everyone, and we got 1 out of 2".

As if they are equal.

I don't have a good feeling about it.

Then prepare for them to be in deep ****, though I don't agree with that. I think OG's are far easier to replace than people make it out to be

Decisions need to be made and the bottom line is the Bills have Wood coming up next year and then Spiller the year after that. The Bills cant sign everyone, no team does. Some players are going to hit the market and its best to do so with the less impact-full positions. OG is one of those positions. Its likely a choice of signing Wood or Levitre long term, my guess is they are going to go with Wood and Levitre is as good as gone

See? Started as I was typing my response.

[Ed]

It doesnt matter if its tied up in the OL or not its still tied up.

To get Byrd and Levitre done its going to cost us about 13 million in cap space (Byrd:6 Levitre:7 ... and Im low balling it)

The Bills have at best 20 million available leaving 7 million to play with

You need about 4.5 million of that for draft picks

Leaving 2.5 million to fill out the roster.

I dont see how the Bills are bringing them both back and IMO its easier to replace an OG than it is a ball hawking Safety

Cutting Kelsay and Wilson would free up almost $8 million alone. Nix has worked hard to build an established OL. It's unlikely that he's not going to spend money on the OL because they have money allocated to less important players. I'm pretty sure Nix values Levitre a lot more than a 34 year old Chris Kelsay.