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    Re: Lance Armstrong and the French

    "If you ain't cheatin', you ain't competin'"!

    boisterous hubris, arrogance, self deception, conspiracy, mud slinging mixed with a heavy dose of self righteousness.

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    Re: Lance Armstrong and the French

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    If by "destroying my stance" you mean bleating "they do it too!" for the umpteenth time, then I agree. Unfortunately, the rules of logic won't allow me to.

    "They do it too!"
    It's more than just "They do it too!"

    It's that the Tour de France has done virtually nothing to STOP it - I mean...c'mon...86% of winners are tarnished with having been involved in doping? 86%??? Really??? That's turning a blind eye!

    Nobody else to blame but themselves!!!

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    Re: Lance Armstrong and the French

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    Read the OP...
    What does the OP have to do with the price of tea in China?

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post


    "They do it too!"
    Who does what?

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    Re: Lance Armstrong and the French

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    Of course you don't, because that would mean addressing the subject rather than bashing a strawman.



    The entire United States is your strawman.

    I said you need to strive to better than everyone else. I didn't say you needed to be better than everyone else. But you gotta try. That's what character is. It's in the try.

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    Re: Lance Armstrong and the French

    The NBC Sports Network started broadcasting every stage of the Tour to the US audience in 1999. I can't find the value of that contract but I think we can all assume they pay for the rights.

    What year did Lance first win?

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    Re: Lance Armstrong and the French

    Quote Originally Posted by mysticsoto View Post
    It's more than just "They do it too!"
    No, it isn't. It's pure, unadulterated "they do it too!".

    Quote Originally Posted by mysticsoto View Post
    It's that the Tour de France has done virtually nothing to STOP it - I mean...c'mon...86% of winners are tarnished with having been involved in doping? 86%??? Really??? That's turning a blind eye!

    Nobody else to blame but themselves!!!
    hey, let's try a little blame the victim on for size.

    "It's the Tour's fault Lance raped them. They were too sexy to resist and didn't put up much of a fight!"


    I have to say boys, you're making my Team America thread look good.
    Last edited by Spartacus; 01-31-2013 at 11:09 AM.

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    Re: Lance Armstrong and the French

    Quote Originally Posted by EricStratton View Post
    The entire United States is your strawman.
    Really? Am I victimizing you? Being unfair? I hate America?

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    Re: Lance Armstrong and the French

    Quote Originally Posted by EricStratton View Post
    The NBC Sports Network started broadcasting every stage of the Tour to the US audience in 1999. I can't find the value of that contract but I think we can all assume they pay for the rights.

    What year did Lance first win?
    So the Tour LET Lance win so they could sell it to the US market?

    Does Alex Jones know?

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    Re: Lance Armstrong and the French

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    I hate America...
    Well don't you?

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    Re: Lance Armstrong and the French

    Did the tour benefit financially from the seemingly poor over site by the Union Cycliste Internationale and the French Federation of Cycling (the groups in charge of administering drug tests)?

    Alex Jones doesn't have to know but nice shot at deflection.

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    Re: Lance Armstrong and the French

    Quote Originally Posted by EricStratton View Post
    Did the tour benefit financially from the seemingly poor over site by the Union Cycliste Internationale and the French Federation of Cycling (the groups in charge of administering drug tests)?
    Did they? I don't see how.

    Doping might let a rider climb a 5000' mountain a minute faster than he would have without the PEDs, but the difference will be indistinguishable to the spectators.

    Nobody says "Boy, I used to think bike racing was boring, but now that they're all doping they're hitting 200 mph on the straights! That's must-see TV!"

    The fact is, cycling broke out with the advent of mini-TV camera technology that let the spectators ride the race with the contestants. The Tour is fabulous TV, not because of hero worship and a burning desire to have your guy win but because it's an amazing travelogue through one of the most beautiful parts of the planet filled with a history that stretches back over two millenia. The Gyro d'Italia is amazing too.

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    Re: Lance Armstrong and the French

    Quote Originally Posted by EricStratton View Post
    Alex Jones doesn't have to know but nice shot at deflection.
    Hey, he appreciates a good conspiracy and the idea that the snotty French threw their own race to rake in yankee cash is pretty juicy.

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    Re: Lance Armstrong and the French

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    No, it isn't. It's pure, unadulterated "they do it too!".

    hey, let's try a little blame the victim on for size.

    "It's the Tour's fault Lance raped them. They were too sexy to resist and didn't put up much of a fight!"

    I have to say boys, you're making my Team America thread look good.
    You still haven't explained why the Tour de France has done nothing about 86% of the winners of their tournament being found guilty of doping...86%!!!! We are not talking about a miniscule number here - we're talking about almost every winner!!!

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    Re: Lance Armstrong and the French

    Quote Originally Posted by mysticsoto View Post
    You still haven't explained why the Tour de France has done nothing about 86% of the winners of their tournament being found guilty of doping...86%!!!! We are not talking about a miniscule number here - we're talking about almost every winner!!!
    LOL! More Team America-driven cheating.

    The article did not say "86% of the winners of their tournament (were) found guilty of doping...".

    Please go back and read it again.

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    Re: Lance Armstrong and the French

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    LOL! More Team America-driven cheating.

    The article did not say "86% of the winners of their tournament (were) found guilty of doping...".

    Please go back and read it again.
    Close enough...

    Since Tommy Simpson's death in 1967, 86% of Tour de France winners have been tarnished or implicated by doping
    You still haven't explained why the Tour De France hasn't done a DAMN thing to stop this from all the way back from 1967. This is not a recent event. This is decades and decades of turning a blind eye to it. LOL!

    But you can keep ducking that reality...

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    Re: Lance Armstrong and the French

    Quote Originally Posted by mysticsoto View Post
    Close enough...


    Tarnished or implicated = guilty?

    Americans - ya gotta love 'em!

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    Re: Lance Armstrong and the French

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post

    Americans - ya gotta love 'em!
    Why do you hate America?

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    Re: Lance Armstrong and the French

    i guess this is important because the French have a cycling event. I think it's about as interesting as soccer. But I cared enough to post in the thread!

    Patti

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    Re: Lance Armstrong and the French

    Quote Originally Posted by braddavery View Post
    Why do you hate America?
    Because of YOU brad.

    You give your whole country a black eye.

    For shame...

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    Re: Lance Armstrong and the French

    Quote Originally Posted by Discotrish View Post
    i guess this is important because the French have a cycling event. I think it's about as interesting as soccer. But I cared enough to post in the thread!

    Patti
    Will there be bicycle racing after the Rapture?

    The Tour de Heaven?

    Couldn't cheat then cuz God can see into your heart...

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