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    Re: Vanek right back to his old self

    Well, they weren't very good when he was playing good too. But I think the Sabres are 2 and 0 when he scores 5 points in a game, so he should do that more.

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    Re: Vanek right back to his old self

    Quote Originally Posted by chernobylwraiths View Post
    Well, they weren't very good when he was playing good too. But I think the Sabres are 2 and 0 when he scores 5 points in a game, so he should do that more.
    The 5 point games are testament to his streakiness.

    It means that twice this season, he had more points in 1 game than he has had in the last 8 games combined.

    5 points in one game is nice but 5 points spread over 3 or 4 games is more likely to lead to wins.
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    Re: Vanek right back to his old self

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    Stop watching league stats and start watching Sabres games.
    I cannot bring myself to that kind of torture anymore, they've been demoted to SWAP Channel, that I'll watch when the other game I'm watching goes to commercial break.


    as for the rest of your post,

    I dont see any team effort, I see miller playing himself to a burn out. The rest of the team is just scrimmaging and collecting a paycheck.

    Change the CBA so Players only get a Check after a Win.... betcha **** turns around QUICK.
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    Re: Vanek right back to his old self

    There definitely is a lack of effort all around, with maybe one or two exceptions.

    But again, everyone else being lazy doesn't excuse Vanek.

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    Re: Vanek right back to his old self

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    There definitely is a lack of effort all around, with maybe one or two exceptions.

    But again, everyone else being lazy doesn't excuse Vanek.
    last i checked this was a TEAM game, and there are usually 4 others skaters on the ice with him at any given time, and it takes more than just one players effort to get scoring opportunities.... so yes everyone else being lazy does directly impact Vaneks ability to produce
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    Re: Vanek right back to his old self

    Quote Originally Posted by Mski View Post
    last i checked this was a TEAM game, and there are usually 4 others skaters on the ice with him at any given time, and it takes more than just one players effort to get scoring opportunities.... so yes everyone else being lazy does directly impact Vaneks ability to produce
    Vanek's had chances that he hasn't converted. That's on him. Vanek takes offensive zone penalties, that's on him.

    And the rest of the team wasn't any less lazy when Vanek was getting points.

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    Re: Vanek right back to his old self

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    The 5 point games are testament to his streakiness.

    It means that twice this season, he had more points in 1 game than he has had in the last 8 games combined.

    5 points in one game is nice but 5 points spread over 3 or 4 games is more likely to lead to wins.
    If he doesn't get 5 points in those two games, they are losses in all likelihood.

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    Re: Vanek right back to his old self

    This thread is hilarious. And sad.

    Vanek pulled his groin 2 weeks ago and has been playing hurt. He gets so beat up during the season. If they ever appreciated the talent the guy has and gave him some complimentary talent maybe he'd be more durable since teams couldn't focus so much on him.
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    Re: Vanek right back to his old self

    Quote Originally Posted by rbochan View Post
    This thread is hilarious. And sad.

    Vanek pulled his groin 2 weeks ago and has been playing hurt. He gets so beat up during the season. If they ever appreciated the talent the guy has and gave him some complimentary talent maybe he'd be more durable since teams couldn't focus so much on him.
    Oh god, this again?

    Every time Vanek goes into a slump, it's the result of an injury. It can't POSSIBLY be his fault, right?

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    Everyone knows Vanek is streaky. That doesn't mean he's "not that good". All it does is underline just how much the team depends on him and how little the team can depend on the other skaters. Yes, he's not Evgeni Malkin or Syd Crosby. He's pretty good though. Just not a franchise type player.
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    Re: Vanek right back to his old self

    2 points for Vanek tonight & we won, oh man it's heresy.

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    Re: Vanek right back to his old self

    Those were cheap points but hopefully it will get a point streak going.

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    Re: Vanek right back to his old self

    Quote Originally Posted by gebobs View Post
    Those were cheap points but hopefully it will get a point streak going.
    All players get cheap points, just that those who ahve the puck more often get more cheap points.

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    Re: Vanek right back to his old self

    Quote Originally Posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
    2 points for Vanek tonight & we won, oh man it's heresy.
    What happened to all that "premature, small sample size" stuff you said earlier in the thread?

    I'm glad Vanek got back on the score sheet but he still only has 4 points (1 goal) in his last 8 games and has failed to register a point in 6 of the last 8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PTI View Post
    All players get cheap points, just that those who ahve the puck more often get more cheap points.
    Those were REALLY cheap points. In a season where 5 of the 7 wins have been ugly, last night was exceptional in that regard. Stupid penalties, cheap goals, defensive breakdowns, huge rebounds, chunks of game without a shot, etc. If not for Miller standing on his head and his three best friends, the goalposts and the crossbar, making themselves big when he wasn't, they might have lost that game by a baker's dozen.

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    It was an ugly game- that's for damn sure. After they scored their first goal, they failed to establish the zone for over 4 mins, and when they finally did, they didnt get a shot on goal. I was thinking that they may be the worst team in the NHL.

    And the officiating was one sided in the sense that they missed calls on TB, but every Sabres penalty was deserved and every one was stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    It was an ugly game- that's for damn sure. After they scored their first goal, they failed to establish the zone for over 4 mins, and when they finally did, they didnt get a shot on goal. I was thinking that they may be the worst team in the NHL.

    And the officiating was one sided in the sense that they missed calls on TB, but every Sabres penalty was deserved and every one was stupid.
    Tyler Myers looked comfortable in the penalty box, too comfortable.

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    Re: Vanek right back to his old self

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    What happened to all that "premature, small sample size" stuff you said earlier in the thread?

    I'm glad Vanek got back on the score sheet but he still only has 4 points (1 goal) in his last 8 games and has failed to register a point in 6 of the last 8.
    Still near the top of the league in scoring, he'd probably make the first line of every team in the league. Keep hating the guy that helps us get our only wins, it makes so much sense.

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    Re: Vanek right back to his old self

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    I was thinking that they may be the worst team in the NHL.
    Could be. The Jackets look pretty crappy too. And who in the world is going to want to watch the Sabres' next game other than a few diehard masochists from Barfalo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
    Still near the top of the league in scoring, he'd probably make the first line of every team in the league. Keep hating the guy that helps us get our only wins, it makes so much sense.
    He hurts as much as he helps- missing wide open nets and/or breakaways, offensive zone penalties, long cold steaks, etc. And that's one of the reasons why this team doesn't win often: the best player makes far too many mistakes.

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