Vanek right back to his old self

[trapezeus]

if i was the sabres GM, i would be offering Vanek in a trade. It's not that i don't like Vanek, but getting him the center help to be consistently amazing will cost more than raping some team that is close and has some top prospects.

This sabres team as is, can not do anything to be a playoff contender past the first round. That is their highest aspiration. and by the time we get enough pieces to have 4 adequate lines, vanek won't be who he is right now.

the more new bodies you get in here the more the players see that the writing is on the wall. and maybe they'll have a more consistent effort. but keeping a bunch of these losers and adding one or two guys for a push hasn't worked, nor will it. the lazy culture is so deeply ingrained with these guys.

[OpIv37]

A lot of you are making the false assumption the I don't care about how anyone else is doing just because I'm willing to point out Vanek's flaws.

[OpIv37]

So you're saying no other Top Offensive player takes alot of penalties? Bull.

Evgeni, Malkin, Eric Staal, Mike Ribero, have similar points numbers but a mess more Penalties called.

Not all penalties are equally dumb. I know Vanek's have been dumb.

Oh, and once again...OTHER PEOPLE MAKING MISTAKES DOES NOT GIVE VANEK AN EXCUSE TO MAKE THEM TOO.

Enough with the kindergarten "well he did it too!" nonsense.

[SkateZilla]

Not all penalties are equally dumb. I know Vanek's have been dumb.

Oh, and once again...OTHER PEOPLE MAKING MISTAKES DOES NOT GIVE VANEK AN EXCUSE TO MAKE THEM TOO.

Enough with the kindergarten "well he did it too!" nonsense.

so your saying vanek isnt allowed to make mistakes but everyone else can?

[Skooby]

so your saying vanek isnt allowed to make mistakes but everyone else can?

Can you say hypercritical ?

[OpIv37]

No, I'm saying everyone who makes a mistake deserves to be called out on it. I don't give a **** if Malkin or Staal or Ribero make mistakes because I'm not a fan of their teams, but I sure as hell hope the people that are fans call them out when they duck up.

[SkateZilla]

in that case, you should be all over Myers, Stafford, and Pretty much anyone that dresses in Blue and Gold on a Nightly Basis.

[OpIv37]

So, you think I like a player's performance just because I didn't specifically start a thread to criticize it? Please.

[Skooby]

Can't complain today, he didn't play.

[SkateZilla]

pfft, he stunk up the press box, roflmao , j/k

[gebobs]

A lot of you are making the false assumption the I don't care about how anyone else is doing just because I'm willing to point out Vanek's flaws.

What's the point in putting a magnifying glass on the team's best player as if you should expect he shouldn't have any flaws? The team has problems, the least of which are with Vanek.

[Skooby]

What's the point in putting a magnifying glass on the team's best player as if you should expect he shouldn't have any flaws? The team has problems, the least of which are with Vanek.

It's personal, no other common sense explanation should be needed. This is like saying Colin Kap lost San Fran the Superbowl after they got there, being the best player on the team.

[OpIv37]

What's the point in putting a magnifying glass on the team's best player as if you should expect he shouldn't have any flaws? The team has problems, the least of which are with Vanek.

Keep thinking Vanek's problems aren't important. Just don't expect to win.

[OpIv37]

It's personal, no other common sense explanation should be needed. This is like saying Colin Kap lost San Fran the Superbowl after they got there, being the best player on the team.

Why would I have anything personal agains Vanek? I've never met him.

I want the team to win. They're only going to do that if Vanek plays up to his salary. When he makes stupid mistakes that no player should make- especially not a "top guy" with the biggest cap hit in the league- I criticize him. It's really that simple.

You guys claim you want the Sabres to win, then you get mad when I criticize a guy whose mistakes are keeping the team for winning. Huh?

I see this nonsense in the Bills forum all the time too. People have favorite players for one reason or another, and make ridiculous excuses to defend mistakes by those players.

[Mski]

Why would I have anything personal agains Vanek? I've never met him.

I want the team to win. They're only going to do that if Vanek plays up to his salary. When he makes stupid mistakes that no player should make- especially not a "top guy" with the biggest cap hit in the league- I criticize him. It's really that simple.

You guys claim you want the Sabres to win, then you get mad when I criticize a guy whose mistakes are keeping the team for winning. Huh?

I see this nonsense in the Bills forum all the time too. People have favorite players for one reason or another, and make ridiculous excuses to defend mistakes by those players.

for the love of god STOP with this blatantly WRONG idea... he is no where near the biggest cap hit in the league

[Mski]

do some research...
he's 14th

[OpIv37]

for the love of god STOP with this blatantly WRONG idea... he is no where near the biggest cap hit in the league

Typo- I meant to say team, not league.

[gebobs]

When he makes stupid mistakes that no player should make- especially not a "top guy" with the biggest cap hit in the league- I criticize him. It's really that simple.

Go ahead and show me the hypothetical "top guy" that never makes any mistakes.

[OpIv37]

Go ahead and show me the hypothetical "top guy" that never makes any mistakes.

I never said he can't make any mistakes. I said he can't make stupid mistakes, which he does. The guy has at least six offensive zone penalties. If he's back checking on a breakaway and hooks a guy- well it's a mistake but I can live with it on occasion. That many offensive zone penalties in the 19 or 20 games he's played this year? Inexcusable, especially from a top guy.

[OpIv37]

Oh and we are right back to the " well he did it too!" mentality.