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  • OpIv37
    Acid Douching Asswipe
    • Sep 2002
    • 100871

    #16
    Re: Vanek right back to his old self

    Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
    Point was to not judge one athlete's accomplishment on a small sample while near leading the league in points, maybe it wasn't clear to you based on one man's efforts thus far.
    8 good games, 10 games that ranged from average to bad. That's the effort so far. It's not just good, it's good enough.
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    • MitchMurrayDowntown
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      • Oct 2011
      • 22263

      #17
      Re: Vanek right back to his old self

      Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
      8 good games, 10 games that ranged from average to bad. That's the effort so far. It's not just good, it's good enough.
      Its amazing that you'll pick apart our best player & fail to point out any other person that has under played this season, it's pretty freakish hard to point a finger at Vanek to find faults this season. You're trying to hammer home a point that's literally silly, you're dead wrong in finding huge fault in Vanek's play. Get over yourself, he's a current league best point maker so far this season, find a better target because there's a near few dozen others on our team. Total dip**** argument of compete blind hate for one successful person, it's pathetic.

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      • SkateZilla
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        • Dec 2002
        • 9166

        #18
        Re: Vanek right back to his old self

        Vanek is no longer the pts leader either.
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        • MitchMurrayDowntown
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          • Oct 2011
          • 22263

          #19
          Re: Vanek right back to his old self

          Originally posted by SkateZilla View Post
          Vanek is no longer the pts leader either.
          Yeah, one point off means he's done nothing this season.

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          • OpIv37
            Acid Douching Asswipe
            • Sep 2002
            • 100871

            #20
            Re: Vanek right back to his old self

            Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
            Its amazing that you'll pick apart our best player & fail to point out any other person that has under played this season, it's pretty freakish hard to point a finger at Vanek to find faults this season. You're trying to hammer home a point that's literally silly, you're dead wrong in finding huge fault in Vanek's play. Get over yourself, he's a current league best point maker so far this season, find a better target because there's a near few dozen others on our team. Total dip**** argument of compete blind hate for one successful person, it's pathetic.
            Lmao.

            I'm trying to hammer home the point that our best player isn't that good.

            He's barely shown up over the last 7 games- a span in which the team has only won once- and you don't think it's fair that he shoulders some of the blame? Gimme a ****ing break. Stop watching league stats and start watching Sabres games.
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            • chernobylwraiths
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              • Jan 2003
              • 41838

              #21
              Re: Vanek right back to his old self

              Well, they weren't very good when he was playing good too. But I think the Sabres are 2 and 0 when he scores 5 points in a game, so he should do that more.

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              • OpIv37
                Acid Douching Asswipe
                • Sep 2002
                • 100871

                #22
                Re: Vanek right back to his old self

                Originally posted by chernobylwraiths View Post
                Well, they weren't very good when he was playing good too. But I think the Sabres are 2 and 0 when he scores 5 points in a game, so he should do that more.
                The 5 point games are testament to his streakiness.

                It means that twice this season, he had more points in 1 game than he has had in the last 8 games combined.

                5 points in one game is nice but 5 points spread over 3 or 4 games is more likely to lead to wins.
                Last edited by OpIv37; 02-25-2013, 10:05 AM.
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                • SkateZilla
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                  • Dec 2002
                  • 9166

                  #23
                  Re: Vanek right back to his old self

                  Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                  Stop watching league stats and start watching Sabres games.
                  I cannot bring myself to that kind of torture anymore, they've been demoted to SWAP Channel, that I'll watch when the other game I'm watching goes to commercial break.


                  as for the rest of your post,

                  I dont see any team effort, I see miller playing himself to a burn out. The rest of the team is just scrimmaging and collecting a paycheck.

                  Change the CBA so Players only get a Check after a Win.... betcha **** turns around QUICK.
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                  • OpIv37
                    Acid Douching Asswipe
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 100871

                    #24
                    Re: Vanek right back to his old self

                    There definitely is a lack of effort all around, with maybe one or two exceptions.

                    But again, everyone else being lazy doesn't excuse Vanek.
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                    • Mski
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                      • Mar 2006
                      • 6753

                      #25
                      Re: Vanek right back to his old self

                      Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                      There definitely is a lack of effort all around, with maybe one or two exceptions.

                      But again, everyone else being lazy doesn't excuse Vanek.
                      last i checked this was a TEAM game, and there are usually 4 others skaters on the ice with him at any given time, and it takes more than just one players effort to get scoring opportunities.... so yes everyone else being lazy does directly impact Vaneks ability to produce
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                      • OpIv37
                        Acid Douching Asswipe
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 100871

                        #26
                        Re: Vanek right back to his old self

                        Originally posted by Mski View Post
                        last i checked this was a TEAM game, and there are usually 4 others skaters on the ice with him at any given time, and it takes more than just one players effort to get scoring opportunities.... so yes everyone else being lazy does directly impact Vaneks ability to produce
                        Vanek's had chances that he hasn't converted. That's on him. Vanek takes offensive zone penalties, that's on him.

                        And the rest of the team wasn't any less lazy when Vanek was getting points.
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                        • chernobylwraiths
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                          • Jan 2003
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                          #27
                          Re: Vanek right back to his old self

                          Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                          The 5 point games are testament to his streakiness.

                          It means that twice this season, he had more points in 1 game than he has had in the last 8 games combined.

                          5 points in one game is nice but 5 points spread over 3 or 4 games is more likely to lead to wins.
                          If he doesn't get 5 points in those two games, they are losses in all likelihood.

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                          • rbochan
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                            • Jun 2008
                            • 5060

                            #28
                            Re: Vanek right back to his old self

                            This thread is hilarious. And sad.

                            Vanek pulled his groin 2 weeks ago and has been playing hurt. He gets so beat up during the season. If they ever appreciated the talent the guy has and gave him some complimentary talent maybe he'd be more durable since teams couldn't focus so much on him.
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                            • OpIv37
                              Acid Douching Asswipe
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 100871

                              #29
                              Re: Vanek right back to his old self

                              Originally posted by rbochan View Post
                              This thread is hilarious. And sad.

                              Vanek pulled his groin 2 weeks ago and has been playing hurt. He gets so beat up during the season. If they ever appreciated the talent the guy has and gave him some complimentary talent maybe he'd be more durable since teams couldn't focus so much on him.
                              Oh god, this again?

                              Every time Vanek goes into a slump, it's the result of an injury. It can't POSSIBLY be his fault, right?
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                              • gebobs
                                One Bills Drive, Georgia - 871 miles south of Orchard Park
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 11520

                                #30
                                Re: Vanek right back to his old self

                                Everyone knows Vanek is streaky. That doesn't mean he's "not that good". All it does is underline just how much the team depends on him and how little the team can depend on the other skaters. Yes, he's not Evgeni Malkin or Syd Crosby. He's pretty good though. Just not a franchise type player.
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